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A FEMALE pedestrian has been airlifted to hospital after she was hit by a car in Worcester.

The incident happened shortly after 8am outside Nunnery Wood High School and led to the closure of Spetchley Road.

A spokesman for West Mercia Police said the woman, aged in her 50s, had been airlified to the Queen Elizabeth Hospital in Birmingham with 'serious injuries' including a head injury where she is in a stable condition.

The car involved was a Vauxhall Zafira. Police are appealing for witnesses and those with information should call 101 and quote reference 75S10/12/12.

The road has since reopened.

 

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11:15am Mon 10 Dec 12

WilkoJ says...

I sincerely hope a full recovery is made. While it is too early to find out the cause I hope the highways department just up the road are aware as this is the latest in string of accidents happening on Worcestershire's roads. It can't all be down to drivers and pedestrians. It's about time the highway engineers took responsibility and started making our roads safer, not worse. Otherwise they should be culpable as result of any inaction or even sued if they are found negligent in their duties.
I sincerely hope a full recovery is made. While it is too early to find out the cause I hope the highways department just up the road are aware as this is the latest in string of accidents happening on Worcestershire's roads. It can't all be down to drivers and pedestrians. It's about time the highway engineers took responsibility and started making our roads safer, not worse. Otherwise they should be culpable as result of any inaction or even sued if they are found negligent in their duties. WilkoJ

11:21am Mon 10 Dec 12

Arthur Blenkinsop says...

Outside a school......... would this possibly have anything to do with selfish drivers parking in the 'no parking zone' which is there so that people can cross the road safely outside a school, designed to give pedestrians a good view of the road without having to dodge traffic, which will no doubt have been doing more than the 20mph limit.
As you say Wilko, too early to know what happened, but no matter how 'safe' the highways are made, someone will find a way making them dangerous again, generally by breaking the law.
Outside a school......... would this possibly have anything to do with selfish drivers parking in the 'no parking zone' which is there so that people can cross the road safely outside a school, designed to give pedestrians a good view of the road without having to dodge traffic, which will no doubt have been doing more than the 20mph limit. As you say Wilko, too early to know what happened, but no matter how 'safe' the highways are made, someone will find a way making them dangerous again, generally by breaking the law. Arthur Blenkinsop

11:21am Mon 10 Dec 12

mayall8808 says...

Totally agree with you WilcoJ, these people who make the decisions on road safety should be held to account when they get it wrong, The highways DO get so much wrong.
Totally agree with you WilcoJ, these people who make the decisions on road safety should be held to account when they get it wrong, The highways DO get so much wrong. mayall8808

11:25am Mon 10 Dec 12

CJH says...

I use this road regularly and have seen many, many near misses. Traffic from Nunnery Lane, Nunnery Wood School and the 6th Form College is often coming out onto Spetchley Road without being able to see clearly because of parked cars. The road is too narrow for cars to park each side, and at busy times when there are more buses the road is often gridlocked completely. Sadly, an accident like this was inevitable. No-one at the council seems to pay a blind bit of attention to the problems, and they want to make it worse by building a load of new houses at the end of Spetchley Road. I hope the woman concerned fully recovers, and if nothing else this concentrates focus on what is one of the most dangerous roads in Worcester. And it needn't be.
I use this road regularly and have seen many, many near misses. Traffic from Nunnery Lane, Nunnery Wood School and the 6th Form College is often coming out onto Spetchley Road without being able to see clearly because of parked cars. The road is too narrow for cars to park each side, and at busy times when there are more buses the road is often gridlocked completely. Sadly, an accident like this was inevitable. No-one at the council seems to pay a blind bit of attention to the problems, and they want to make it worse by building a load of new houses at the end of Spetchley Road. I hope the woman concerned fully recovers, and if nothing else this concentrates focus on what is one of the most dangerous roads in Worcester. And it needn't be. CJH

11:29am Mon 10 Dec 12

skychip says...

Agree with CJH. Very dangerous road especially at peak times, far too many cars using this road. Also possibility of at least another 500 cars if houses are built because the County Council will not allow access and egress from dual carriageway.
Agree with CJH. Very dangerous road especially at peak times, far too many cars using this road. Also possibility of at least another 500 cars if houses are built because the County Council will not allow access and egress from dual carriageway. skychip

11:40am Mon 10 Dec 12

Fishy says...

mayall8808 wrote:
Totally agree with you WilcoJ, these people who make the decisions on road safety should be held to account when they get it wrong, The highways DO get so much wrong.
Quite right - highways are to blame for everything. Clearly they and their families somehow manage to avoid travelling on the county's roads (even one leading to county hall) otherwise they'd do something about it.

Once upon a time a motorist who was driving too fast or a pedestrian who forgot their green cross code would have been to blame but not anymore.
[quote][p][bold]mayall8808[/bold] wrote: Totally agree with you WilcoJ, these people who make the decisions on road safety should be held to account when they get it wrong, The highways DO get so much wrong.[/p][/quote]Quite right - highways are to blame for everything. Clearly they and their families somehow manage to avoid travelling on the county's roads (even one leading to county hall) otherwise they'd do something about it. Once upon a time a motorist who was driving too fast or a pedestrian who forgot their green cross code would have been to blame but not anymore. Fishy

11:53am Mon 10 Dec 12

ali0268 says...

Spetchley Road being closed has caused a very dangerous situation now on Nunnery Lane and Hillary Road due to the cars that normally park along Spetchley Road are parked on both sides of Nunnery Lane almost to the entrance from Spetchley Road so if turning in off Spetchley Road approach with care or there may be another accident
Spetchley Road being closed has caused a very dangerous situation now on Nunnery Lane and Hillary Road due to the cars that normally park along Spetchley Road are parked on both sides of Nunnery Lane almost to the entrance from Spetchley Road so if turning in off Spetchley Road approach with care or there may be another accident ali0268

11:56am Mon 10 Dec 12

CJH says...

What a pity criminal charges of negligence can't be brought against the Council for ignoring these problems. Or can they?
What a pity criminal charges of negligence can't be brought against the Council for ignoring these problems. Or can they? CJH

12:05pm Mon 10 Dec 12

mrwrighty says...

A highways department van drove past me this morning driving like a madman and cutting across lanes leading out to the M5 at Whittington, this was not long after the poor lady was knocked down. Obviously road safety is not high on the list of priorities within the department.
A highways department van drove past me this morning driving like a madman and cutting across lanes leading out to the M5 at Whittington, this was not long after the poor lady was knocked down. Obviously road safety is not high on the list of priorities within the department. mrwrighty

12:14pm Mon 10 Dec 12

murray kelso says...

Someone has been very seriously injured in this incident, and none of us know the circumstances at the moment.
We'd be grateful if readers could refrain from speculation, sarcasm and blame-laying until we know the full details.

Thank you.

MK - Digital Editor
Someone has been very seriously injured in this incident, and none of us know the circumstances at the moment. We'd be grateful if readers could refrain from speculation, sarcasm and blame-laying until we know the full details. Thank you. MK - Digital Editor murray kelso

12:45pm Mon 10 Dec 12

Hillbilly1 says...

Arthur Blenkinsop wrote:
Outside a school......... would this possibly have anything to do with selfish drivers parking in the 'no parking zone' which is there so that people can cross the road safely outside a school, designed to give pedestrians a good view of the road without having to dodge traffic, which will no doubt have been doing more than the 20mph limit.
As you say Wilko, too early to know what happened, but no matter how 'safe' the highways are made, someone will find a way making them dangerous again, generally by breaking the law.
If its "too early to know what happened" then why are you hypothesizing in this way? I totally agree with MK !! I was hit by a car once and hospitalised, and you know what? It was 100% my fault!!
[quote][p][bold]Arthur Blenkinsop[/bold] wrote: Outside a school......... would this possibly have anything to do with selfish drivers parking in the 'no parking zone' which is there so that people can cross the road safely outside a school, designed to give pedestrians a good view of the road without having to dodge traffic, which will no doubt have been doing more than the 20mph limit. As you say Wilko, too early to know what happened, but no matter how 'safe' the highways are made, someone will find a way making them dangerous again, generally by breaking the law.[/p][/quote]If its "too early to know what happened" then why are you hypothesizing in this way? I totally agree with MK !! I was hit by a car once and hospitalised, and you know what? It was 100% my fault!! Hillbilly1

12:47pm Mon 10 Dec 12

RobertR says...

My sympathies to the person injured.One the big problems around schools is parents dropping and collecting their children by car causing congestion.People will drive 100 yards
rather than walk.
As both a car driver and motorcyclist one of my main gripes with both worcestershire and glos highways is the sheer number of unnecessary road signs to distract drivers. between Pensham and Wick turnings there are over 20 signs in a distance of 300 yds
My sympathies to the person injured.One the big problems around schools is parents dropping and collecting their children by car causing congestion.People will drive 100 yards rather than walk. As both a car driver and motorcyclist one of my main gripes with both worcestershire and glos highways is the sheer number of unnecessary road signs to distract drivers. between Pensham and Wick turnings there are over 20 signs in a distance of 300 yds RobertR

1:09pm Mon 10 Dec 12

More Tea Vicar says...

It is way too early to say anything about the particulars of this accident, apart from to wish the person injured a speedy and complete recovery.

But there are a couple of general points.

Getting around Worcester on foot or by bike is a bit of a nightmare. Pavements are often poorly maintained, and overgrown by trees and bushes, often planted by the council.

There is virtually zero useful cycle provision, despite the council's guffovision about the 'green city', which would make you think it was committed to it.

And of course, the council is 100% committed to getting thousands more cars onto our already overcrowded roads.

So whoever is responsible for this particular incident, there clearly are wider issues about road safety, which are related to poor performance and thinking by the council.
It is way too early to say anything about the particulars of this accident, apart from to wish the person injured a speedy and complete recovery. But there are a couple of general points. Getting around Worcester on foot or by bike is a bit of a nightmare. Pavements are often poorly maintained, and overgrown by trees and bushes, often planted by the council. There is virtually zero useful cycle provision, despite the council's guffovision about the 'green city', which would make you think it was committed to it. And of course, the council is 100% committed to getting thousands more cars onto our already overcrowded roads. So whoever is responsible for this particular incident, there clearly are wider issues about road safety, which are related to poor performance and thinking by the council. More Tea Vicar

1:17pm Mon 10 Dec 12

Vox populi says...

Fishy wrote:
mayall8808 wrote: Totally agree with you WilcoJ, these people who make the decisions on road safety should be held to account when they get it wrong, The highways DO get so much wrong.
Quite right - highways are to blame for everything. Clearly they and their families somehow manage to avoid travelling on the county's roads (even one leading to county hall) otherwise they'd do something about it. Once upon a time a motorist who was driving too fast or a pedestrian who forgot their green cross code would have been to blame but not anymore.
Amen to that the two parties actually involved responsible for their actions.

Not another fine excuse for a whinge at the local authority!

Best wishes for a speedy recovery to the lady.
[quote][p][bold]Fishy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mayall8808[/bold] wrote: Totally agree with you WilcoJ, these people who make the decisions on road safety should be held to account when they get it wrong, The highways DO get so much wrong.[/p][/quote]Quite right - highways are to blame for everything. Clearly they and their families somehow manage to avoid travelling on the county's roads (even one leading to county hall) otherwise they'd do something about it. Once upon a time a motorist who was driving too fast or a pedestrian who forgot their green cross code would have been to blame but not anymore.[/p][/quote]Amen to that the two parties actually involved responsible for their actions. Not another fine excuse for a whinge at the local authority! Best wishes for a speedy recovery to the lady. Vox populi

1:46pm Mon 10 Dec 12

witty says...

Wishing this lady a full recovery and all good wishes!

Can I just say....I live on Spetchley Road and we could never understand why the road through County Hall was closed off to the dual carriage way.

This means that all traffic going down Spetchley Road has to turn round and come back again or go through Spetchley estate and thus that the road is twice as busy as it needs to be or could be.

We told our then local councillor of our concerns at the time of the closure some years ago.

My children also attend the High School so obviously I am concerned about the road. The parking at school drop off and pick up does impede the view on the road and at the junctions, no doubt about that, but we do all have to live and go to school somewhere and at other times of the day the road is quieter and fairly OK.

Can someone please look at the situation with the closed off road at County Hall again? ....before another accident happens! This could also improve the situation if the new houses are to be built (which is another story).
Wishing this lady a full recovery and all good wishes! Can I just say....I live on Spetchley Road and we could never understand why the road through County Hall was closed off to the dual carriage way. This means that all traffic going down Spetchley Road has to turn round and come back again or go through Spetchley estate and thus that the road is twice as busy as it needs to be or could be. We told our then local councillor of our concerns at the time of the closure some years ago. My children also attend the High School so obviously I am concerned about the road. The parking at school drop off and pick up does impede the view on the road and at the junctions, no doubt about that, but we do all have to live and go to school somewhere and at other times of the day the road is quieter and fairly OK. Can someone please look at the situation with the closed off road at County Hall again? ....before another accident happens! This could also improve the situation if the new houses are to be built (which is another story). witty

2:40pm Mon 10 Dec 12

farmeralan1963 says...

I hope that the lady makes a fast and full recovery and my best wishes to her.

As one of the earlier posts have said, this is another tragic accident on Worcestershire's roads, there sadly seems to be one a week of late. There are many reasons which cause accidents to happen but I really do think it is about time the highways department started looking thoroughly in to the causes of these accidents, while thy should be a wake up call to the engineers and i feel that their management of the road network is a contributory factor towards some of these accidents. They should get off their backsides and start trying to the road network safer and start justifying their hugely inflated salaries, especially as today's accident was virtually on their doorstep.

It is about time a public meeting was held with the highways staff to discuss highway matters and their lack of competence. Their continued failings are making them culpable and I hope for their sakes today's accident was not a result of another of their failings.
I hope that the lady makes a fast and full recovery and my best wishes to her. As one of the earlier posts have said, this is another tragic accident on Worcestershire's roads, there sadly seems to be one a week of late. There are many reasons which cause accidents to happen but I really do think it is about time the highways department started looking thoroughly in to the causes of these accidents, while thy should be a wake up call to the engineers and i feel that their management of the road network is a contributory factor towards some of these accidents. They should get off their backsides and start trying to the road network safer and start justifying their hugely inflated salaries, especially as today's accident was virtually on their doorstep. It is about time a public meeting was held with the highways staff to discuss highway matters and their lack of competence. Their continued failings are making them culpable and I hope for their sakes today's accident was not a result of another of their failings. farmeralan1963

2:43pm Mon 10 Dec 12

Fishy says...

witty wrote:
Wishing this lady a full recovery and all good wishes! Can I just say....I live on Spetchley Road and we could never understand why the road through County Hall was closed off to the dual carriage way. This means that all traffic going down Spetchley Road has to turn round and come back again or go through Spetchley estate and thus that the road is twice as busy as it needs to be or could be. We told our then local councillor of our concerns at the time of the closure some years ago. My children also attend the High School so obviously I am concerned about the road. The parking at school drop off and pick up does impede the view on the road and at the junctions, no doubt about that, but we do all have to live and go to school somewhere and at other times of the day the road is quieter and fairly OK. Can someone please look at the situation with the closed off road at County Hall again? ....before another accident happens! This could also improve the situation if the new houses are to be built (which is another story).
How does that work Witty??

I would have thought that closing off the route through county hall to the bypass would reduce the number of vehicles on Spetchley Rd by preventing it from being used as a short cut.
[quote][p][bold]witty[/bold] wrote: Wishing this lady a full recovery and all good wishes! Can I just say....I live on Spetchley Road and we could never understand why the road through County Hall was closed off to the dual carriage way. This means that all traffic going down Spetchley Road has to turn round and come back again or go through Spetchley estate and thus that the road is twice as busy as it needs to be or could be. We told our then local councillor of our concerns at the time of the closure some years ago. My children also attend the High School so obviously I am concerned about the road. The parking at school drop off and pick up does impede the view on the road and at the junctions, no doubt about that, but we do all have to live and go to school somewhere and at other times of the day the road is quieter and fairly OK. Can someone please look at the situation with the closed off road at County Hall again? ....before another accident happens! This could also improve the situation if the new houses are to be built (which is another story).[/p][/quote]How does that work Witty?? I would have thought that closing off the route through county hall to the bypass would reduce the number of vehicles on Spetchley Rd by preventing it from being used as a short cut. Fishy

4:39pm Mon 10 Dec 12

witty says...

Hello there Fishy,

well it works like this.... everyone has to come down Spetchley Road and then turn round or cut through Spetchley estate as they can't go on and out to the bypass or vice versa if you were coming the other way.

This is an issue here as we have two venues: the school and the sixth form college where large numbers of people come in cars twice per day. If those venues were not there, then yes, it would stop it being used as a short cut.

Anyway, this is no time to argue trivialities when there is someone lying injured. What I am saying is that all things should be considered.
Hello there Fishy, well it works like this.... everyone has to come down Spetchley Road and then turn round or cut through Spetchley estate as they can't go on and out to the bypass or vice versa if you were coming the other way. This is an issue here as we have two venues: the school and the sixth form college where large numbers of people come in cars twice per day. If those venues were not there, then yes, it would stop it being used as a short cut. Anyway, this is no time to argue trivialities when there is someone lying injured. What I am saying is that all things should be considered. witty

6:22pm Mon 10 Dec 12

Jabbadad says...

As someone who frequently uses County Hall, When cars are parked along Spetchley Road some traffic speed along the road, when the schools are on holidays the traffic still speeds.
The answer has to be 20 mph speed limit.
Why there is a 40 mph limit past the Blind college beggars belief.
As someone who frequently uses County Hall, When cars are parked along Spetchley Road some traffic speed along the road, when the schools are on holidays the traffic still speeds. The answer has to be 20 mph speed limit. Why there is a 40 mph limit past the Blind college beggars belief. Jabbadad

6:53pm Mon 10 Dec 12

alanquattro says...

MK ,all readers wish the lady a speedy and good recovery, you are wrong to try and kill comments being made on this article as clearly the sheer number of them being from people living nearby or visiting are identifying problems that need to be addressed and this is the time to express those views while it is on your pages. I only visit the area once a week but I agree with every point made. Your other accident reports draw far less response.
MK ,all readers wish the lady a speedy and good recovery, you are wrong to try and kill comments being made on this article as clearly the sheer number of them being from people living nearby or visiting are identifying problems that need to be addressed and this is the time to express those views while it is on your pages. I only visit the area once a week but I agree with every point made. Your other accident reports draw far less response. alanquattro

7:30pm Mon 10 Dec 12

saucerer says...

I agree with alanquattro's comments. I too wish the lady a full and speedy recovery.

None of us wish to be insensitive towards this lady, family and friends, but road safety and the management of roads is a very important and pertinent subject for many, and this is highlighted in the number of highway articles being published in the WN which raise important issues and questions the competence of the highways department which is in everyone's interest.

After all, we pay these highways staff and all we have ever received are poor services and examples of utter incompetence, many of which have been reported in the WN. The tax payer is now saying enough is enough and it's therefore only right that readers make comment and air their views.
I agree with alanquattro's comments. I too wish the lady a full and speedy recovery. None of us wish to be insensitive towards this lady, family and friends, but road safety and the management of roads is a very important and pertinent subject for many, and this is highlighted in the number of highway articles being published in the WN which raise important issues and questions the competence of the highways department which is in everyone's interest. After all, we pay these highways staff and all we have ever received are poor services and examples of utter incompetence, many of which have been reported in the WN. The tax payer is now saying enough is enough and it's therefore only right that readers make comment and air their views. saucerer

8:00pm Mon 10 Dec 12

CJH says...

alanquattro wrote:
MK ,all readers wish the lady a speedy and good recovery, you are wrong to try and kill comments being made on this article as clearly the sheer number of them being from people living nearby or visiting are identifying problems that need to be addressed and this is the time to express those views while it is on your pages. I only visit the area once a week but I agree with every point made. Your other accident reports draw far less response.
I'm guessing you didn't see the comments deleted by Murray. They were insensitive and speculative regarding the circumstances of the incident and the lady concerned. The comments were quite rightly deleted. It was not censorship, it was protecting someone not in a position to answer back.
[quote][p][bold]alanquattro[/bold] wrote: MK ,all readers wish the lady a speedy and good recovery, you are wrong to try and kill comments being made on this article as clearly the sheer number of them being from people living nearby or visiting are identifying problems that need to be addressed and this is the time to express those views while it is on your pages. I only visit the area once a week but I agree with every point made. Your other accident reports draw far less response.[/p][/quote]I'm guessing you didn't see the comments deleted by Murray. They were insensitive and speculative regarding the circumstances of the incident and the lady concerned. The comments were quite rightly deleted. It was not censorship, it was protecting someone not in a position to answer back. CJH

8:13pm Mon 10 Dec 12

Free-born John says...

Unbelievable!

Why don't we all pause for a moment and WAIT until the FACTS are known afore any finger pointing takes place.
Unbelievable! Why don't we all pause for a moment and WAIT until the FACTS are known afore any finger pointing takes place. Free-born John

10:34am Tue 11 Dec 12

Fishy says...

witty wrote:
Hello there Fishy, well it works like this.... everyone has to come down Spetchley Road and then turn round or cut through Spetchley estate as they can't go on and out to the bypass or vice versa if you were coming the other way. This is an issue here as we have two venues: the school and the sixth form college where large numbers of people come in cars twice per day. If those venues were not there, then yes, it would stop it being used as a short cut. Anyway, this is no time to argue trivialities when there is someone lying injured. What I am saying is that all things should be considered.
Fair enough but with the short cut closed off vehicles won't come down unless they need to and there is a mini roundabout for turning round.

Would you say that traffic down Spetchely Rd (especially the speeding variety) has increased, decreased or stayed the same since the short cut was closed off?

I don't live on Spetchley Rd but am glad that the street where I live isn't part of a short cut route.
[quote][p][bold]witty[/bold] wrote: Hello there Fishy, well it works like this.... everyone has to come down Spetchley Road and then turn round or cut through Spetchley estate as they can't go on and out to the bypass or vice versa if you were coming the other way. This is an issue here as we have two venues: the school and the sixth form college where large numbers of people come in cars twice per day. If those venues were not there, then yes, it would stop it being used as a short cut. Anyway, this is no time to argue trivialities when there is someone lying injured. What I am saying is that all things should be considered.[/p][/quote]Fair enough but with the short cut closed off vehicles won't come down unless they need to and there is a mini roundabout for turning round. Would you say that traffic down Spetchely Rd (especially the speeding variety) has increased, decreased or stayed the same since the short cut was closed off? I don't live on Spetchley Rd but am glad that the street where I live isn't part of a short cut route. Fishy

9:24pm Tue 11 Dec 12

The answer is 42 says...

Not going to comment on the news item, but I'd like to inject a little wisdom if possible.
If you drive a motor vehicle you have the most responsibility for preventing an accident beacuse you are the one in control of the vehicle that will cause the injury. You have more responsibility than the pedestrian and the cyclist because you can kill somebody. You have more responsibility than the highways department because it doesn't matter what they do if you don't drive properly.
Key strategy for driving safely - just pretend that every vulnerable road user is a member of your own family and drive as if you want all of them never to be injured - simples!
Not going to comment on the news item, but I'd like to inject a little wisdom if possible. If you drive a motor vehicle you have the most responsibility for preventing an accident beacuse you are the one in control of the vehicle that will cause the injury. You have more responsibility than the pedestrian and the cyclist because you can kill somebody. You have more responsibility than the highways department because it doesn't matter what they do if you don't drive properly. Key strategy for driving safely - just pretend that every vulnerable road user is a member of your own family and drive as if you want all of them never to be injured - simples! The answer is 42

10:02pm Tue 11 Dec 12

The Doosra says...

The answer is 42 wrote:
Not going to comment on the news item, but I'd like to inject a little wisdom if possible.
If you drive a motor vehicle you have the most responsibility for preventing an accident beacuse you are the one in control of the vehicle that will cause the injury. You have more responsibility than the pedestrian and the cyclist because you can kill somebody. You have more responsibility than the highways department because it doesn't matter what they do if you don't drive properly.
Key strategy for driving safely - just pretend that every vulnerable road user is a member of your own family and drive as if you want all of them never to be injured - simples!
Nailed on: there have been some seriously distasteful comments on here by contributors who use this platform to air their ignorant, one-dimensional, dim-witted views of the Highways Department at the slightest drop of a hat. They have nothing to offer except hearsay and bile. Ask them to provide documented evidence and they run a mile. Not to be taken seriously - any of them.
[quote][p][bold]The answer is 42[/bold] wrote: Not going to comment on the news item, but I'd like to inject a little wisdom if possible. If you drive a motor vehicle you have the most responsibility for preventing an accident beacuse you are the one in control of the vehicle that will cause the injury. You have more responsibility than the pedestrian and the cyclist because you can kill somebody. You have more responsibility than the highways department because it doesn't matter what they do if you don't drive properly. Key strategy for driving safely - just pretend that every vulnerable road user is a member of your own family and drive as if you want all of them never to be injured - simples![/p][/quote]Nailed on: there have been some seriously distasteful comments on here by contributors who use this platform to air their ignorant, one-dimensional, dim-witted views of the Highways Department at the slightest drop of a hat. They have nothing to offer except hearsay and bile. Ask them to provide documented evidence and they run a mile. Not to be taken seriously - any of them. The Doosra

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