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Is it RIP Ledbury?

AS we approach the deadline for people to comment on the proposed Sainsbury’s out of town superstore, I must encourage as many people as possible to make their views known to Herefordshire Council’s chief planning officer Andrew Ashcroft.

Our campaign – Save Ledbury – is about keeping the magic of our town, ranked as one of the country’s favourites in a recent BBC poll.

What is at stake is not shopping – it’s about a sense of place, about jobs in the wider rural economy, about local, small outlets for food, about the historic fabric of the town, it’s about Ledbury’s soul.

People are intensely proud of Ledbury. And people who have lived elsewhere understand how uniquely special and valuable our town is.

Are we, like so many others, to become a ‘clone town’ of chain store multiples – or worse, a ghost town where half the shops are boarded up or turned into fast food joints?

Superstore supporters accuse us of scare-mongering. Yes, the professional spin-doctors employed by Sainsbury’s at vast expense are busy offering ‘rebuttals’ and denials. But consider the evidence… Five independent reports by three separate companies have reached the same conclusion that the proposed Sainsbury’s is just too big for Ledbury, and it’s in the wrong place, nearly a mile out of town.

The retail experts agree that there isn’t enough trade to go round to support a new vast Sainsbury’s, our current two supermarkets and the smaller shops in the High Street.

Shops will close.

Out of town retail developments are universally agreed to be a bad thing for local town centres. Even Sainsbury’s use this fact to help win them approval for their town centre stores.

Yet here in Ledbury, Sainsbury’s are arguing the opposite, that there will be no loss of linked trips, and their out of town location will have no impact at all on the vitality of the town – in fact remarkably, it will be good for the town.

The development people will say anything to suit their own purposes, and it’s sad so many ordinary people place their trust in them, only to realise the truth when it’s too late.

This is not a rehearsal. If this superstore is built, and the people who say ‘it will not damage Ledbury’ despite all the mass of evidence to the contrary, are proved right, then we will have achieved the miracle result that no other market town in the UK has achieved.

If, however, they are wrong, and we are right, then R.I.P Ledbury as we know it.

We do not have to make this decision now, nor should our town councillors be pushed into making an irreversible decision for Ledbury just because a superstore operator has barged in with a planning application, one of hundreds up and down the country.

In December the Localism Bill became law.

All the people of Ledbury, not just a few unelected citizens in the town council, now have the right to decide how they would like their patch of England to be developed over the next few years.

The first meeting took place this week to start the process of planning our Neighbourhood, and it is open to every single citizen of Ledbury to join in.

It may be that we all together decide to plan to revisit the superstore option in a couple of years, or five or 10. We may decide to look at having a complete retail park, or we may decide to persuade James Hervey-Bathurst to turn Eastnor into a safari park! But it will be our decision what is ultimately enshrined in that neighbourhood plan, which will become a legal framework for the future.

If you care, write to the planners at Herefordshire Council and tell them how you feel by e-mailing planning_ enquiries@herefordshire.gov.uk

RICH HADLEY
Save Ledbury

Comments(28)

Pinkbabe1 says...
4:51pm Fri 3 Feb 12

Mr Hadley - your long winded letters are all very well and good but I suggest you advise your members that derogatory and abusive comments to Ledbury people who simply have an opinion are not acceptable - oh and I suggest you take your own advise when writing to LESS regarding comments made. Maybe you could write another long winded letter on the subject of hypocrisy?

LOOTS supporter says...
6:43pm Fri 3 Feb 12

Good Evening Pink Babe !
I notice you as a member of LESS are posting provocative comments in several places at present. Some of us, on both sides of the debate, are trying to not inflame things, to avoid provocation and calm down, so that we can all concentrate on our own campaign and "agree to disagree" I would suggest that you do post and comment about the Out of Town Superstore issue, but maybe run your comments past your spokesperson, Colin Marcshall first as he will be able to advise you on what is helpful to your cause and what is not.

Pinkbabe1 says...
8:42pm Fri 3 Feb 12

By provocative I assume you mean disagreeing with LOTS. I think you will find it is called freedom of speech and if LOTS cannot handle this then I suggest they remove their facebook page. I also find it quite amusing about your suggestions - three words spring to mind. Pot. Kettle. Black.

LOOTS supporter says...
8:02am Sat 4 Feb 12

Not at all. I respect other peoples views and enjoy discussing current affairs etc. I have spoken with many people who disagree with LOTS and have not experienced provocative reactions. There is enough stress in life already.

Colin J Marschall says...
7:23pm Sat 4 Feb 12

Dear Mr Hadley, I see again you cast accusations around like snow in the wind, you have already had one comment removed for accusing LESS of being run by a PR company and yet again you insist on pushing these lies onto the general public, if you have any proof at all that LESS is run by a PR company then let the public see it, where as LESS can show to anyone that the latest independant report was conducted by GVA Grimley, who also count Tesco's as one of their main clients, in fact GVA have been investigated for conflict of interests by producing a report for a local council in favour of a Tesco's while also representing Tesco's at the same time. In essence Mr Hadley "put up or shut up".

LOOTS supporter says...
2:26pm Sun 5 Feb 12

I would not say good riddance to Ledbury, I really like Ledbury. .....Another offensive post from Mr mightyflames. Is this helping the LESS cause ? As Mr Francis and other councillors said at the TC meeting, LESS do have some good points to put across, but Is this how Mr Marcshall wants members to put across their position on the superstore issue ?

Colin J Marschall says...
2:54pm Sun 5 Feb 12

I don't see anywhere that mightyflames states they are a member of LESS, is this more blowing in the wind from LOOTS supporter just like all the PR rubbish.
However I would advise mightyflames on a personal level to be aware of what they write as LOTS do have this habit of copying items and if it was to come down to it, this paper would have to divulge your true identity and also IF you are a member of LESS mightyflames then I ask you to please to calm your comments.

LOOTS supporter says...
4:56pm Sun 5 Feb 12

Thank you Colin Marcshall.

Sarah Blenkinsop says...
5:20pm Sun 5 Feb 12

mightyflames28 wrote:
Yes Mr Hadley i agree it will be R.I.P Ledbury as we know it .goodbye to stale old deadbury with hardly any choice for low income families and Hello 21st century Ledbury with a store that can cater for all needs and incomes ..good riddance to ledbury as it is now .and if you like it so much you can go with it ..the people that were born and bred in and around ledbury want this new store .maybe you should listen to them instead of your own selfish deluded mind.
What an offensive post.

I find the language used in it is unfair, discourteous and disrespectful to the views of others.

Colin J Marschall says...
10:23pm Sun 5 Feb 12

Further update on the above posts by mightyflames, one of our members has come forward and advised that this name is one they used to use, after investigation they have found that the email account attached to this name has been hacked by person(s) unknown and as such I will be requested the LR to remove their posts and to ban the email account from these pages. LESS apologise to any person who has been effected by this, but it something LESS have had no control over.

Colin J Marschall says...
10:24pm Sun 5 Feb 12

also the person whose email was hacked has never actually signed up to the Ledbury reporter or posted here.

Carl G Francis says...
10:57pm Sun 5 Feb 12

it has come to my attention that someone has been using my old twitter handle .i would like to make very clear that i have never posted on this website at any time .whoever this person is needs to stop now ..i would add that they are not a member of LESS and if need be the police will be contacted and the matter delt with through legal avenues..i was quite prepared to leave the LESS group over this matter and im still yet to make my mind up over this as things are getting out of hand now and i fear that i am being targeted because of my links with LESS and i do wonder how far this could go ..thank you for your time and my sincere apologies for any distress caused by individuals acting in an unneccessary way in my name.

jmccabe says...
10:52am Mon 6 Feb 12

Carl G Francis wrote:
it has come to my attention that someone has been using my old twitter handle .i would like to make very clear that i have never posted on this website at any time .whoever this person is needs to stop now ..i would add that they are not a member of LESS and if need be the police will be contacted and the matter delt with through legal avenues..i was quite prepared to leave the LESS group over this matter and im still yet to make my mind up over this as things are getting out of hand now and i fear that i am being targeted because of my links with LESS and i do wonder how far this could go ..thank you for your time and my sincere apologies for any distress caused by individuals acting in an unneccessary way in my name.
Staggering!

Mr Francis, I would encourage you to speak to the police about it and see what they say.

Cuchulainn says...
1:11am Tue 7 Feb 12

I think Carl G Francis should contact the Police regarding the matter, the legal route can be a costly one. If your phone had been hacked what other information has been taken, only advising this as my phone was hacked a number of years ago and everytime I made call I was getting charged to some number in Brazil, it ended up with me having a £365 bill. Check out most sites on it a comment from one The attack allows hackers complete control over the handsets, and could be used to make or send texts to premium phone and messaging services - a typical fraudster attack which can leave victims with enormous bills.

johnstjohn says...
11:09am Wed 8 Feb 12

A Sainsbury store was built in my village location on the outskirts of Worcester and it has affected some of the other shops here. Any supermaket will draw spending away from the high street and shops will close. I consider Sainsbury a second best super market, often unable to find basic products on the shelves (milk, cornflower, desiccated coconut etc), and some own products tasteless (oxtail soup that was just peppered water). I prefer to use the Cooperative.

LOOTS supporter says...
12:03pm Wed 8 Feb 12

Yes The co-op has ethical standards and all reductions are genuine. Sainsbury's products are certainly not cheap and the company seem to be determined to press ahead with applying to build huge stores in Out of Town locations where the evidence shows that this will damage nearby High Streets. See www.saveledbury.com for evidence and information.

jmccabe says...
5:14pm Wed 8 Feb 12

johnstjohn: wrote:
I consider Sainsbury a second best super market, often unable to find basic products on the shelves

Interesting you should say that; that's the sort of thing we found after Sainsbury's built a superstore in Farlington (just the other side of the A27 from Portsmouth). Quite often we'd go in there and there would be hardly any fresh fruit and veg available.

Hickson says...
12:11pm Sat 11 Feb 12

The Sainsbury store near St Albans must have been the worst store I've ever been in. There was often no fresh produce at all. Many items were their own brand which I was reluctant to buy and offered no choice. It could take at least three minutes to walk in the store, around the ailes and out again.

The main novelty was for the price reductions - 2p off a roat leg of lamb, 4p off a six pack of desserts etc - discounts to die for or die by, maybe.

Hickson says...
12:13pm Sat 11 Feb 12

The Sainsbury store near St Albans must have been the worst store I've ever been in. There was often no fresh produce at all. Many items were their own brand which I was reluctant to buy and offered no choice. It could take at least three minutes to walk in the store, around the ailes and out again.

Generally the prices were 2p more than Tesco for the same product.
The main novelty was for the price reductions - 2p off a roat leg of lamb, 4p off a six pack of desserts etc - discounts to die for or die by, maybe.

ARogers says...
10:11pm Sat 11 Feb 12

wrote:
I'm writing from California, a place where this happens all the time. Many of our towns all look the same and the ones that do not are having trouble staying unique. Sebastopol, California is having the same problem as you with Walgreens wanting to bring in a big super store that will dominate the picturesque main intersection of the town and the citizens are fighting it.
When the big store is built, there will be some good - some very happy people who don't have to drive 11 miles to get a cheaper frying pan, then there will be people unhappy that these people didn't buy locally. Many small businesses will close that carry things like kitchenware, appliances, cards, books, clothes, etc. Others of different types will open and thrive, ones that are more unique and upscale, but the area may take many years to recover. You will have to drive past the ugly facade of the superstore, unless the council gets tough and demands that it match the town's features. You will have to look at empty store fronts. Take a Google Earth tour of the towns where big superstores build and ask yourself if you can live with that. In the US, where they build one store, they soon bring in the sister stores, too. You may not be approving just one store.
You have the most beautiful little town I have ever seen, so I hope it will stay that way. Good luck to you all.

LOOTS supporter says...
8:25am Sun 12 Feb 12

Thank you KRogers, How kind of you to send a message of support from across the sea !
People here do not have to drive 11 miles, but only 7 miles to Great Malvern for more Supermarkets and to just the other side of Great Malvern for a large retail park.
The evidence is clear on the issue of Out of Town Superstores (available on www.saveledbury.com) We already have two supermarkets, one each end of the High Street and most people, including traders that I have spoken with, would not object to the proposed enhancement of the present Tesco which would offer a good increase in parking facilities as well as a vast increased selling space. You obviously keep in touch through the Ledbury Reporter and hopefully you will read about a good outcome for us in a couple of weeks.
Valerie McLean

psychiatrist says...
10:14am Mon 13 Feb 12

does he mean dieing?/ my mate Bob told me yesteday tthat the owner of sainburys says that all highstreets is deead alreday anyway so i guessits allover for ledbur thrn.
Ping pong the highstreets dead sort of

Hickson says...
10:46am Mon 13 Feb 12

It's good to see the LR still prepared to 'Handle More Compost'

Still, psychiatrist, don't despair, the High Street is not dead yet!! Justin King CBE has vested interests which enable him to make fatuous comments like this based on little evidence other than what his man-servants tell him.

Sainsburys have good connections with the government and the elites of this country. It is said that Lord Sainsbury IS the government. So you see, these people have no interest in the ordinary people of this country. They are all about power and status. They are more interested in their share ratings than football results. Profit - Cash - Wealth - Profit - SelfIndulgence - Screw the Poor - Profit - Wealth - do you get my drift??

In the old days people like Sainsbury would just plunder and pillage their way across the country, taking no prisoners. These days they set up stall and bleed people to death - plus ca change?

Hickson says...
10:57am Mon 13 Feb 12

Just a further note about Justin King CBE:

he giving a talk to specially invited people only (that means not you and me ). Held at the prestigious Guildhall, organised by the seven City Livery Companies whose roots are in the food industry – namely the Worshipful Companies of Bakers, Butchers, Cooks, Farmers, Fishmongers, Fruiterers and Poulters.

http://www.cityfoodl
ecture.com

Why is this man talking about Planning to the audience - surely it should be about the Food Industry?????

Colin J Marschall says...
9:02am Tue 14 Feb 12

More of the usual from LOTS

psychiatrist says...
4:28pm Tue 14 Feb 12

you tell em Col11

jmccabe says...
12:09pm Thu 16 Feb 12

psychiatrist wrote:
you tell em Col11
Mmm - seems to be a theme here!

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