"It wasn't me" says charity man 'linked' to masked gunmen

"It wasn't me" says charity man 'linked' to masked gunmen

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A CHARITY worker from Worcester has denied posing with two masked gunmen and says he has never even been to Syria.

The family of Adeel Ali has issued a statement denying claims he posed with his arms around the gunmen, as featured on the front pages of The Sun and Worcester News.

The photograph shows a man purported to be Mr Ali next to two men carrying AK47 assault rifles and clad in military gear but the family is adamant the man in the picture is not Mr Ali.

They say Mr Ali has never even been to Syria but has been to Turkey, near the border with Syria, as part of an aid mission with the charity Al-Fatiha Global.

In the statement, the Ali family and trustees of the charity said: “The Al-Fatiha charity is governed by trustees Mumtaz Ali and Mike Lloyd and Adeel Ali is not ‘the boss’.

“This charity is open to review and study for the management of the funds it has received and processed.

“There have been enquiries by the Charity Commission which have met with full co-operation of the trustees.

“It is apparent that there are sources who wish the Charity Commission to investigate this charity. The trustees will continue to act in accordance with charity law and will continue to publish their accounts. This charity was set up for humanitarian purposes and has always acted and operated on that basis.”

The statement says because of the crisis in Syria, the funds raised have increased substantially.

But it says all funds are accounted for and Mike Lloyd – a trustee and accountant since the foundation of the charity – is confident in compliance with charity laws.

The statement also describes Adeel Ali as a married man with young children, the son of Mumtaz Ali (a charity trustee), who has been active for and on behalf of the charity. Activity has included working with others in a humanitarian role such as working for Syrian refugees.

The statement continues: “Adeel Ali states that the assertion that he has been photographed in Syria with AK45 (sic) fighters of any description or association of tendency is denied.

“Adeel Ali has visited once the Kilis Refugee Camp for Syrian refugees on the border with Turkey.

He was there on June 1, 2013 and with the Turkish Charity IHH and for a period of about four hours distributing humanitarian aid to refugees and others giving help to these refugees.

“His passport was stamped by the Turkey Border Officers on exit and on entrance. There were no Syrian officials. The Kilis Camp is about 500 yards from the Turkey border.”

Mr Ali states that at no time during his time at the camp was the photograph taken.

“At no time in that camp did he pose for such a photo and nor did he meet with or consort with any armed and disguised men as suggested by the photograph and the newspaper articles,” he says.

“Adeel Ali has participated in humanitarian convoys to deliver humanitarian materials for the victims of the Syrian Crisis but on all other occasions has delivered the materials inside Turkey.”

As we reported yesterday Mr Ali is a former taxi driver who used to work for Commandery Cars, but whose licence expired in January.

“The family recognise the serious implication of the story promoted by The Sun. They remain committed to comply with the laws of the UK where they have lived and worked in Worcester now for four generations.”

Commandery Coaches have asked us to point out that there is no association at all between them and Commandery Cars, who were mentioned in our story in yesterday’s paper.

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10:45am Wed 19 Mar 14

robbo1664 says...

A spokesman for Worcester City Council confirmed that staff from Worcestershire Regulatory Services had identified former taxi driver Adniel Mumtaz Ali as being the man in The Sun photographs described as 'Adeel Ali' in The Sun. Mr Ali was identified by regulatory service staff as the same man from his passport photograph. ....ha ha u have been identified deny it all you want but it's you in the photograph with 2 masked gunmen......
A spokesman for Worcester City Council confirmed that staff from Worcestershire Regulatory Services had identified former taxi driver Adniel Mumtaz Ali as being the man in The Sun photographs described as 'Adeel Ali' in The Sun. Mr Ali was identified by regulatory service staff as the same man from his passport photograph. ....ha ha u have been identified deny it all you want but it's you in the photograph with 2 masked gunmen...... robbo1664
  • Score: 8

12:17pm Wed 19 Mar 14

disgusted with local F.A says...

Name And shame his firm enoch was right in 68
Name And shame his firm enoch was right in 68 disgusted with local F.A
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1:27pm Wed 19 Mar 14

truth must out says...

Mr Ali was identified by regulatory service staff as the same man from his passport photograph.
He certainly looks like the man in the photograph, he was in the area...the evidence is piling up!!
Mr Ali was identified by regulatory service staff as the same man from his passport photograph. He certainly looks like the man in the photograph, he was in the area...the evidence is piling up!! truth must out
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2:33pm Wed 19 Mar 14

WJS1950 says...

disgusted with local F.A wrote:
Name And shame his firm enoch was right in 68
Those opposed to Mr Powell's views and 'that' speech are perhaps now seeing the consequences of some factions and religions on our society and British culture by not halting immigration back then. Some people I know are refusing to use taxis driven by, or visit restaurants run by, shall we say, people of a certain culture/heritage with the hope that continued, reduced custom will see these businesses fold and the proprietors moving out.
[quote][p][bold]disgusted with local F.A[/bold] wrote: Name And shame his firm enoch was right in 68[/p][/quote]Those opposed to Mr Powell's views and 'that' speech are perhaps now seeing the consequences of some factions and religions on our society and British culture by not halting immigration back then. Some people I know are refusing to use taxis driven by, or visit restaurants run by, shall we say, people of a certain culture/heritage with the hope that continued, reduced custom will see these businesses fold and the proprietors moving out. WJS1950
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2:54pm Wed 19 Mar 14

Moltaire says...

WJS1950 wrote:
disgusted with local F.A wrote:
Name And shame his firm enoch was right in 68
Those opposed to Mr Powell's views and 'that' speech are perhaps now seeing the consequences of some factions and religions on our society and British culture by not halting immigration back then. Some people I know are refusing to use taxis driven by, or visit restaurants run by, shall we say, people of a certain culture/heritage with the hope that continued, reduced custom will see these businesses fold and the proprietors moving out.
A rather interesting approach taken by these people you know. Being truthful, I'm no great fan of the culture I presume you're referring to for various reasons while I often wonder about the safety and security upon our society too, and I'd bet anyone's bottom dollar that many feel the same too. Perhaps the action taken by these people you know is the most sensible, safe, logical and lawful approach to ensuring these people are are squeezed out of our society, thereby not only restoring some of our own national culture, way of life and handing areas back to Britons, but also eradicating the high level of terror and safety concerns which leaves us all on edge.

Some might say my comments are racist, but I don't feel they are. They merely reflect what many of us think and, perhaps, want, while I have no issues with many other cultures and religions who reside here, often to the benefit of society, while many do jobs and have the proper work ethic which so many Britons are too lazy to do.
[quote][p][bold]WJS1950[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]disgusted with local F.A[/bold] wrote: Name And shame his firm enoch was right in 68[/p][/quote]Those opposed to Mr Powell's views and 'that' speech are perhaps now seeing the consequences of some factions and religions on our society and British culture by not halting immigration back then. Some people I know are refusing to use taxis driven by, or visit restaurants run by, shall we say, people of a certain culture/heritage with the hope that continued, reduced custom will see these businesses fold and the proprietors moving out.[/p][/quote]A rather interesting approach taken by these people you know. Being truthful, I'm no great fan of the culture I presume you're referring to for various reasons while I often wonder about the safety and security upon our society too, and I'd bet anyone's bottom dollar that many feel the same too. Perhaps the action taken by these people you know is the most sensible, safe, logical and lawful approach to ensuring these people are are squeezed out of our society, thereby not only restoring some of our own national culture, way of life and handing areas back to Britons, but also eradicating the high level of terror and safety concerns which leaves us all on edge. Some might say my comments are racist, but I don't feel they are. They merely reflect what many of us think and, perhaps, want, while I have no issues with many other cultures and religions who reside here, often to the benefit of society, while many do jobs and have the proper work ethic which so many Britons are too lazy to do. Moltaire
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3:16pm Wed 19 Mar 14

postly says...

A question , why and how would the Sun newspaper in London identify Mr Ali from Worcester as the man in the picture ? Obviously some one close to me Ali who had access to the picture told them , for all his denials it is him . Out of 60 odd million people in the UK it would be a bit odd for the Sun to chose him at random.
If it is not him is he going to Sue the Sun newspaper for libel ? They have denigrated his good name and he could sue them for thousands . He could also, if it is not him , sue Worcester council who identified him yesterday as the man in the picture..
But lets face it , it is him and he is probably a bit embarrassed and wondering how it will effect his Worcester based businesses and he will not Sue any one.
A question , why and how would the Sun newspaper in London identify Mr Ali from Worcester as the man in the picture ? Obviously some one close to me Ali who had access to the picture told them , for all his denials it is him . Out of 60 odd million people in the UK it would be a bit odd for the Sun to chose him at random. If it is not him is he going to Sue the Sun newspaper for libel ? They have denigrated his good name and he could sue them for thousands . He could also, if it is not him , sue Worcester council who identified him yesterday as the man in the picture.. But lets face it , it is him and he is probably a bit embarrassed and wondering how it will effect his Worcester based businesses and he will not Sue any one. postly
  • Score: 8

3:53pm Wed 19 Mar 14

ideas4all says...

Here we go again the racists coming out of the closets before even anything is proven by Sun a well known right wing sexist newspaper who have been hacking into murdered child's voicemail .I don't know ppl bother even reading all its good for is sports news and page three .why don't ppl look at the other side of the story and highlight the fact there are ppl doing charitable work where the prime minister wanted military action .you keep on about Powell over and over again but to tell u the truth he was right in a way but there's nothing u can do about it at all .my grandfather came to this country in the 60s now there's over 100 of us and growing cos two of my relatives are expecting .the boycotts will not make any difference cos the vast majority of natives are not concerned
Here we go again the racists coming out of the closets before even anything is proven by Sun a well known right wing sexist newspaper who have been hacking into murdered child's voicemail .I don't know ppl bother even reading all its good for is sports news and page three .why don't ppl look at the other side of the story and highlight the fact there are ppl doing charitable work where the prime minister wanted military action .you keep on about Powell over and over again but to tell u the truth he was right in a way but there's nothing u can do about it at all .my grandfather came to this country in the 60s now there's over 100 of us and growing cos two of my relatives are expecting .the boycotts will not make any difference cos the vast majority of natives are not concerned ideas4all
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4:10pm Wed 19 Mar 14

gobialoo says...

I don't really know what the real fuss is about? All the paper ( sun ) has said is a man known as Adeel Ali has been raising funds for the refugees in Syria, and was photographed standing between 2 masked men carrying weapons, who could be security personal. Their is no mention of him diverting funds for personal gain or purchasing arms for militants or hostile groups to U.K. As far as I know he has been helping those who have suffered in this terrible conflict.
I don't really know what the real fuss is about? All the paper ( sun ) has said is a man known as Adeel Ali has been raising funds for the refugees in Syria, and was photographed standing between 2 masked men carrying weapons, who could be security personal. Their is no mention of him diverting funds for personal gain or purchasing arms for militants or hostile groups to U.K. As far as I know he has been helping those who have suffered in this terrible conflict. gobialoo
  • Score: 13

4:14pm Wed 19 Mar 14

Redhillman says...

WJS1950 wrote:
disgusted with local F.A wrote:
Name And shame his firm enoch was right in 68
Those opposed to Mr Powell's views and 'that' speech are perhaps now seeing the consequences of some factions and religions on our society and British culture by not halting immigration back then. Some people I know are refusing to use taxis driven by, or visit restaurants run by, shall we say, people of a certain culture/heritage with the hope that continued, reduced custom will see these businesses fold and the proprietors moving out.
+1. For various reasons which are probably shared by many anyway, I, too, am not the greatest fan of this culture/religion and I certainly wouldn't shed a tear if these people were eradicated from Worcester. Boycotting taxis driven by, and visiting/dining at certain restaurants and food outlets run by, these people is a great idea and as Moltaire said, it is a sensible, safe, logical and lawful approach to ensuring these people are are squeezed out of our society. A total lack of customers and income will see these businesses affected and close down which may then see these people move on, while other people would then be able to take up the reigns and jobs created by their exit. If we all cared about our society and our culture, then if we all took this sort of boycott action collectively in Worcester, we may succeed in what we all really want.
[quote][p][bold]WJS1950[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]disgusted with local F.A[/bold] wrote: Name And shame his firm enoch was right in 68[/p][/quote]Those opposed to Mr Powell's views and 'that' speech are perhaps now seeing the consequences of some factions and religions on our society and British culture by not halting immigration back then. Some people I know are refusing to use taxis driven by, or visit restaurants run by, shall we say, people of a certain culture/heritage with the hope that continued, reduced custom will see these businesses fold and the proprietors moving out.[/p][/quote]+1. For various reasons which are probably shared by many anyway, I, too, am not the greatest fan of this culture/religion and I certainly wouldn't shed a tear if these people were eradicated from Worcester. Boycotting taxis driven by, and visiting/dining at certain restaurants and food outlets run by, these people is a great idea and as Moltaire said, it is a sensible, safe, logical and lawful approach to ensuring these people are are squeezed out of our society. A total lack of customers and income will see these businesses affected and close down which may then see these people move on, while other people would then be able to take up the reigns and jobs created by their exit. If we all cared about our society and our culture, then if we all took this sort of boycott action collectively in Worcester, we may succeed in what we all really want. Redhillman
  • Score: 5

4:37pm Wed 19 Mar 14

ideas4all says...

gobialoo wrote:
I don't really know what the real fuss is about? All the paper ( sun ) has said is a man known as Adeel Ali has been raising funds for the refugees in Syria, and was photographed standing between 2 masked men carrying weapons, who could be security personal. Their is no mention of him diverting funds for personal gain or purchasing arms for militants or hostile groups to U.K. As far as I know he has been helping those who have suffered in this terrible conflict.
Well said potato these ppl r raising funds to help refugees exactly what the government said they r doing
[quote][p][bold]gobialoo[/bold] wrote: I don't really know what the real fuss is about? All the paper ( sun ) has said is a man known as Adeel Ali has been raising funds for the refugees in Syria, and was photographed standing between 2 masked men carrying weapons, who could be security personal. Their is no mention of him diverting funds for personal gain or purchasing arms for militants or hostile groups to U.K. As far as I know he has been helping those who have suffered in this terrible conflict.[/p][/quote]Well said potato these ppl r raising funds to help refugees exactly what the government said they r doing ideas4all
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5:18pm Wed 19 Mar 14

robbo1664 says...

i must be looking at a different picture ...he is not standing between 2 masked gunmen.....he has his arms around 2 masked gunmen which would lead me to believe they are more than just security personel......and were masked gunmen allowed into Turkey so he could pose for the photo....because according to him he has never been to Syria....
i must be looking at a different picture ...he is not standing between 2 masked gunmen.....he has his arms around 2 masked gunmen which would lead me to believe they are more than just security personel......and were masked gunmen allowed into Turkey so he could pose for the photo....because according to him he has never been to Syria.... robbo1664
  • Score: 1

5:29pm Wed 19 Mar 14

gobialoo says...

And you rob are an expert in recognising men in ski masks as Al Qaida or terror link operatives, and from looking at the photo image you can tell the difference between Turkey and Syria?
And you rob are an expert in recognising men in ski masks as Al Qaida or terror link operatives, and from looking at the photo image you can tell the difference between Turkey and Syria? gobialoo
  • Score: 0

5:46pm Wed 19 Mar 14

robbo1664 says...

once again show me where i said they were Al Qaida or terror link operatives.they are masked gunmen....and if he has not been to Syria then where was the picture taken.....And are you still going to tell me he is not the man in the picture.......if all this is lies started by the sun newspaper i look forward to reading the story....Worcester charity worker sues sun newspaper over terror link allegations.....but thats not gonna happen because he is the man in the photo.....
once again show me where i said they were Al Qaida or terror link operatives.they are masked gunmen....and if he has not been to Syria then where was the picture taken.....And are you still going to tell me he is not the man in the picture.......if all this is lies started by the sun newspaper i look forward to reading the story....Worcester charity worker sues sun newspaper over terror link allegations.....but thats not gonna happen because he is the man in the photo..... robbo1664
  • Score: 6

6:08pm Wed 19 Mar 14

Spetchley Dave says...

So the Council know him as ADNIEL and yet this statement refers to him as being called ADEEL. something dodgy going on there surely?!
So the Council know him as ADNIEL and yet this statement refers to him as being called ADEEL. something dodgy going on there surely?! Spetchley Dave
  • Score: 1

6:13pm Wed 19 Mar 14

arshad hussain says...

Ok, ignoring the right wing twerps and their delusions of grandeur of blonde hair blue eyed Anglo-Saxon utopian Britain, let's face it they don't have a brain cell between them, I had to LOL at their economic sanctions idea of worcester I.e boycotting their local kebab house...Osborne must be pooing in his pants.....moving on.....I wonder why people are getting their knickers in a twist over this, as I recall British special forces including an old school friend of mine( who is in the SAS) have been training Syrian rebels since 2011-2012 if not before, more so after the Arab spring started. Frankly speaking the sun newspaper is not fit to wipe ones backside with, this is the same sick newspaper which hacked into a dead child's answer phone (Milly dowler) while printing heartbreaking 'exclusives'........
..last time I checked it is not an offence to take 'selfies' or photos with balaclava wearing men, whether in Turkey or not. The charities accountant/trustee has been open and transparent....what'
s the problem?? Worcester news should avoid parroting the sun and sensationalising non existent fabricated gutter tabloid journalism.........l
eave you with those thoughts, I'm of to boycott my local Pakistani curry house, anyone got the number for an indian takeaway?
Ok, ignoring the right wing twerps and their delusions of grandeur of blonde hair blue eyed Anglo-Saxon utopian Britain, let's face it they don't have a brain cell between them, I had to LOL at their economic sanctions idea of worcester I.e boycotting their local kebab house...Osborne must be pooing in his pants.....moving on.....I wonder why people are getting their knickers in a twist over this, as I recall British special forces including an old school friend of mine( who is in the SAS) have been training Syrian rebels since 2011-2012 if not before, more so after the Arab spring started. Frankly speaking the sun newspaper is not fit to wipe ones backside with, this is the same sick newspaper which hacked into a dead child's answer phone (Milly dowler) while printing heartbreaking 'exclusives'........ ..last time I checked it is not an offence to take 'selfies' or photos with balaclava wearing men, whether in Turkey or not. The charities accountant/trustee has been open and transparent....what' s the problem?? Worcester news should avoid parroting the sun and sensationalising non existent fabricated gutter tabloid journalism.........l eave you with those thoughts, I'm of to boycott my local Pakistani curry house, anyone got the number for an indian takeaway? arshad hussain
  • Score: 11

6:36pm Wed 19 Mar 14

ideas4all says...

arshad hussain wrote:
Ok, ignoring the right wing twerps and their delusions of grandeur of blonde hair blue eyed Anglo-Saxon utopian Britain, let's face it they don't have a brain cell between them, I had to LOL at their economic sanctions idea of worcester I.e boycotting their local kebab house...Osborne must be pooing in his pants.....moving on.....I wonder why people are getting their knickers in a twist over this, as I recall British special forces including an old school friend of mine( who is in the SAS) have been training Syrian rebels since 2011-2012 if not before, more so after the Arab spring started. Frankly speaking the sun newspaper is not fit to wipe ones backside with, this is the same sick newspaper which hacked into a dead child's answer phone (Milly dowler) while printing heartbreaking 'exclusives'........

..last time I checked it is not an offence to take 'selfies' or photos with balaclava wearing men, whether in Turkey or not. The charities accountant/trustee has been open and transparent....what'

s the problem?? Worcester news should avoid parroting the sun and sensationalising non existent fabricated gutter tabloid journalism.........l

eave you with those thoughts, I'm of to boycott my local Pakistani curry house, anyone got the number for an indian takeaway?
Well said where were all these commentators when Cameron took a delegation of arms salesman to Egypt just after civil war was averted .Blair was still making deals with gaddafi .the public still voted in Blair again after the massive lies over Iraq where thousands of civilians died .as the economy was doing well .many years Saddam was armed and supported by UK government but only when the oil supply was threatened they decided to do something .so please don't try to take the moral high ground .
[quote][p][bold]arshad hussain[/bold] wrote: Ok, ignoring the right wing twerps and their delusions of grandeur of blonde hair blue eyed Anglo-Saxon utopian Britain, let's face it they don't have a brain cell between them, I had to LOL at their economic sanctions idea of worcester I.e boycotting their local kebab house...Osborne must be pooing in his pants.....moving on.....I wonder why people are getting their knickers in a twist over this, as I recall British special forces including an old school friend of mine( who is in the SAS) have been training Syrian rebels since 2011-2012 if not before, more so after the Arab spring started. Frankly speaking the sun newspaper is not fit to wipe ones backside with, this is the same sick newspaper which hacked into a dead child's answer phone (Milly dowler) while printing heartbreaking 'exclusives'........ ..last time I checked it is not an offence to take 'selfies' or photos with balaclava wearing men, whether in Turkey or not. The charities accountant/trustee has been open and transparent....what' s the problem?? Worcester news should avoid parroting the sun and sensationalising non existent fabricated gutter tabloid journalism.........l eave you with those thoughts, I'm of to boycott my local Pakistani curry house, anyone got the number for an indian takeaway?[/p][/quote]Well said where were all these commentators when Cameron took a delegation of arms salesman to Egypt just after civil war was averted .Blair was still making deals with gaddafi .the public still voted in Blair again after the massive lies over Iraq where thousands of civilians died .as the economy was doing well .many years Saddam was armed and supported by UK government but only when the oil supply was threatened they decided to do something .so please don't try to take the moral high ground . ideas4all
  • Score: 12

6:36pm Wed 19 Mar 14

gobialoo says...

No I haven't said he is not the man in question, my question to you is what is all the fuss with him having a photo taking with 2 masked men holding automatic rifles. As for the photo being taking where is irrelevant as long as its not in U.K. and is NO threat to U.K. and its interest.
No I haven't said he is not the man in question, my question to you is what is all the fuss with him having a photo taking with 2 masked men holding automatic rifles. As for the photo being taking where is irrelevant as long as its not in U.K. and is NO threat to U.K. and its interest. gobialoo
  • Score: 1

7:38pm Wed 19 Mar 14

robbo1664 says...

gobialoo wrote:
No I haven't said he is not the man in question, my question to you is what is all the fuss with him having a photo taking with 2 masked men holding automatic rifles. As for the photo being taking where is irrelevant as long as its not in U.K. and is NO threat to U.K. and its interest.
if he has nothing to hide why is he denying it's him......
[quote][p][bold]gobialoo[/bold] wrote: No I haven't said he is not the man in question, my question to you is what is all the fuss with him having a photo taking with 2 masked men holding automatic rifles. As for the photo being taking where is irrelevant as long as its not in U.K. and is NO threat to U.K. and its interest.[/p][/quote]if he has nothing to hide why is he denying it's him...... robbo1664
  • Score: 4

7:59pm Wed 19 Mar 14

gobialoo says...

To escape and not be judged by small narrow minded quick to conclusion illiterate racist Islam phobic gentlemen like yourself.
To escape and not be judged by small narrow minded quick to conclusion illiterate racist Islam phobic gentlemen like yourself. gobialoo
  • Score: 2

8:26pm Wed 19 Mar 14

robbo1664 says...

gobialoo wrote:
To escape and not be judged by small narrow minded quick to conclusion illiterate racist Islam phobic gentlemen like yourself.
your right i am sorry for misjudging a british muslim who went abroad on a mission to take aid to syrian refugees and ended up on the front page of a national newspaper in a photograph with his arms around 2 masked gunmen.....lets just hope the british public wise up and stop giving money to these so called islamic charities.....
[quote][p][bold]gobialoo[/bold] wrote: To escape and not be judged by small narrow minded quick to conclusion illiterate racist Islam phobic gentlemen like yourself.[/p][/quote]your right i am sorry for misjudging a british muslim who went abroad on a mission to take aid to syrian refugees and ended up on the front page of a national newspaper in a photograph with his arms around 2 masked gunmen.....lets just hope the british public wise up and stop giving money to these so called islamic charities..... robbo1664
  • Score: 3

8:36pm Wed 19 Mar 14

robbo1664 says...

thats the last comment on the subject from me i will return when more news on this story is made public.....bye
thats the last comment on the subject from me i will return when more news on this story is made public.....bye robbo1664
  • Score: -2

8:58pm Wed 19 Mar 14

Spetchley Dave says...

For me the big question remains - when did he use a false identity? Was it when he applied to the council for his taxi licence or when releasing this statement to the media? Is he ADNIEL or ADEEL?
For me the big question remains - when did he use a false identity? Was it when he applied to the council for his taxi licence or when releasing this statement to the media? Is he ADNIEL or ADEEL? Spetchley Dave
  • Score: 2

1:40am Thu 20 Mar 14

ideas4all says...

Spetchley Dave wrote:
For me the big question remains - when did he use a false identity? Was it when he applied to the council for his taxi licence or when releasing this statement to the media? Is he ADNIEL or ADEEL?
.simple admin error by Worcester services who in their excitement of being linked to national tabloid story .were not able to pronounce the name right .just ask them again and they will admit it
[quote][p][bold]Spetchley Dave[/bold] wrote: For me the big question remains - when did he use a false identity? Was it when he applied to the council for his taxi licence or when releasing this statement to the media? Is he ADNIEL or ADEEL?[/p][/quote].simple admin error by Worcester services who in their excitement of being linked to national tabloid story .were not able to pronounce the name right .just ask them again and they will admit it ideas4all
  • Score: 4

2:30am Thu 20 Mar 14

Jabbadad says...

As a brownneyed Anglo saxon Welcome to the UK Ideas4all, may you continue to marry your cousins and produce many more off spring.
As a brownneyed Anglo saxon Welcome to the UK Ideas4all, may you continue to marry your cousins and produce many more off spring. Jabbadad
  • Score: 2

7:18am Thu 20 Mar 14

Spetchley Dave says...

ideas4all wrote:
Spetchley Dave wrote:
For me the big question remains - when did he use a false identity? Was it when he applied to the council for his taxi licence or when releasing this statement to the media? Is he ADNIEL or ADEEL?
.simple admin error by Worcester services who in their excitement of being linked to national tabloid story .were not able to pronounce the name right .just ask them again and they will admit it
I somehow doubt this. The Council will have been very careful to make sure the name they gave is the name they have on record. There is something fishy going on and the truth will no doubt emerge in the coming days.
[quote][p][bold]ideas4all[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Spetchley Dave[/bold] wrote: For me the big question remains - when did he use a false identity? Was it when he applied to the council for his taxi licence or when releasing this statement to the media? Is he ADNIEL or ADEEL?[/p][/quote].simple admin error by Worcester services who in their excitement of being linked to national tabloid story .were not able to pronounce the name right .just ask them again and they will admit it[/p][/quote]I somehow doubt this. The Council will have been very careful to make sure the name they gave is the name they have on record. There is something fishy going on and the truth will no doubt emerge in the coming days. Spetchley Dave
  • Score: 2

7:25am Thu 20 Mar 14

sailor.I.A says...

Fair play to the guy for having the courage to go out there, raise money & help those poor, starving people to begin with. As for the men holding guns, The British government/the west, all of us tax payers have paid for those weapons that those men hold, paid for to bring down their government that the west doesn't get along with, not to kill British soldiers! They are fighting the Syrian government on our behalf! If it is him in the photo, no wonder he's denied it, the lynch mob is obviously out! Like I said, at least he's had the balls to go out there & help these people.
Fair play to the guy for having the courage to go out there, raise money & help those poor, starving people to begin with. As for the men holding guns, The British government/the west, all of us tax payers have paid for those weapons that those men hold, paid for to bring down their government that the west doesn't get along with, not to kill British soldiers! They are fighting the Syrian government on our behalf! If it is him in the photo, no wonder he's denied it, the lynch mob is obviously out! Like I said, at least he's had the balls to go out there & help these people. sailor.I.A
  • Score: 6

10:55am Thu 20 Mar 14

Karl Hunderson says...

Redhillman wrote:
WJS1950 wrote:
disgusted with local F.A wrote:
Name And shame his firm enoch was right in 68
Those opposed to Mr Powell's views and 'that' speech are perhaps now seeing the consequences of some factions and religions on our society and British culture by not halting immigration back then. Some people I know are refusing to use taxis driven by, or visit restaurants run by, shall we say, people of a certain culture/heritage with the hope that continued, reduced custom will see these businesses fold and the proprietors moving out.
+1. For various reasons which are probably shared by many anyway, I, too, am not the greatest fan of this culture/religion and I certainly wouldn't shed a tear if these people were eradicated from Worcester. Boycotting taxis driven by, and visiting/dining at certain restaurants and food outlets run by, these people is a great idea and as Moltaire said, it is a sensible, safe, logical and lawful approach to ensuring these people are are squeezed out of our society. A total lack of customers and income will see these businesses affected and close down which may then see these people move on, while other people would then be able to take up the reigns and jobs created by their exit. If we all cared about our society and our culture, then if we all took this sort of boycott action collectively in Worcester, we may succeed in what we all really want.
I find it quite sad, but not surprising given the cesspit from which many of these sort of comment come from on the WN, that people are advocating boycotting businesses because of the ethnicity of the owners. These are shameful, shameful comments. Has everybody forgotten the Holocaust and how it came about?
[quote][p][bold]Redhillman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]WJS1950[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]disgusted with local F.A[/bold] wrote: Name And shame his firm enoch was right in 68[/p][/quote]Those opposed to Mr Powell's views and 'that' speech are perhaps now seeing the consequences of some factions and religions on our society and British culture by not halting immigration back then. Some people I know are refusing to use taxis driven by, or visit restaurants run by, shall we say, people of a certain culture/heritage with the hope that continued, reduced custom will see these businesses fold and the proprietors moving out.[/p][/quote]+1. For various reasons which are probably shared by many anyway, I, too, am not the greatest fan of this culture/religion and I certainly wouldn't shed a tear if these people were eradicated from Worcester. Boycotting taxis driven by, and visiting/dining at certain restaurants and food outlets run by, these people is a great idea and as Moltaire said, it is a sensible, safe, logical and lawful approach to ensuring these people are are squeezed out of our society. A total lack of customers and income will see these businesses affected and close down which may then see these people move on, while other people would then be able to take up the reigns and jobs created by their exit. If we all cared about our society and our culture, then if we all took this sort of boycott action collectively in Worcester, we may succeed in what we all really want.[/p][/quote]I find it quite sad, but not surprising given the cesspit from which many of these sort of comment come from on the WN, that people are advocating boycotting businesses because of the ethnicity of the owners. These are shameful, shameful comments. Has everybody forgotten the Holocaust and how it came about? Karl Hunderson
  • Score: 2

12:22pm Thu 20 Mar 14

billy@64 says...

If it walks like a duck and it quacks like a duck in all probability its a duck! Of course it was him, who just happened to be in the same area.....mmmm and stumble on two veiled gunmem.....mmm but it wasnt me guv, honest , quack quack. I spent a while working as a bailiff and these people having two identities is common and difficult to stop as there is no common surname in the family. Ideal for confusing council licencing departments, tax inspectors, benefit offices and maybe security services. I stopped using services of certain people after the lee rigby episode and sleep soundly knowing I do not contribute to people who are a cancer from within. Lets hope mr ali or whichever alias he is using this week reaps what he sows.
If it walks like a duck and it quacks like a duck in all probability its a duck! Of course it was him, who just happened to be in the same area.....mmmm and stumble on two veiled gunmem.....mmm but it wasnt me guv, honest , quack quack. I spent a while working as a bailiff and these people having two identities is common and difficult to stop as there is no common surname in the family. Ideal for confusing council licencing departments, tax inspectors, benefit offices and maybe security services. I stopped using services of certain people after the lee rigby episode and sleep soundly knowing I do not contribute to people who are a cancer from within. Lets hope mr ali or whichever alias he is using this week reaps what he sows. billy@64
  • Score: 11

12:45pm Thu 20 Mar 14

sailor.I.A says...

You should work for the mi5 as a bailiff.. QUACK QUACK
You should work for the mi5 as a bailiff.. QUACK QUACK sailor.I.A
  • Score: 3

4:59pm Thu 20 Mar 14

drowningnotwaving says...

Given the spray painting of 'long live Osama bin laden' sprayed on the commandary wall I wouldn't be surprised if there wasn't a jihadist element in Worcester.
I haven't used a certain communities services since 9/11 and an article in the times saying how much was being collected in UK Mosques for terror.
If you want to mention holocausts, why not investigate the genocide of Christians in the middle east, especially Syria who are on the brink of extinction due to so called freedom fighters.
see barnbasfund.org
Given the spray painting of 'long live Osama bin laden' sprayed on the commandary wall I wouldn't be surprised if there wasn't a jihadist element in Worcester. I haven't used a certain communities services since 9/11 and an article in the times saying how much was being collected in UK Mosques for terror. If you want to mention holocausts, why not investigate the genocide of Christians in the middle east, especially Syria who are on the brink of extinction due to so called freedom fighters. see barnbasfund.org drowningnotwaving
  • Score: 6

8:18pm Thu 20 Mar 14

Jabbadad says...

I recall that the jewish Holocaust came about because "we play the game" politicians would not react to Hitler who was well on his way as a man from Satan before he declared war on so many countries.
There are no Good wars but there are some essential ones. And when we look at how many wars are going on right now, I say no matter which God you pray to, they don't seem to be doing a very good job do they.
And religous wars are the worse since what are they saying to those who are sacrifieced in war?
I recall that the jewish Holocaust came about because "we play the game" politicians would not react to Hitler who was well on his way as a man from Satan before he declared war on so many countries. There are no Good wars but there are some essential ones. And when we look at how many wars are going on right now, I say no matter which God you pray to, they don't seem to be doing a very good job do they. And religous wars are the worse since what are they saying to those who are sacrifieced in war? Jabbadad
  • Score: 4

9:23am Fri 21 Mar 14

brooksider says...

WJS1950 wrote:
disgusted with local F.A wrote:
Name And shame his firm enoch was right in 68
Those opposed to Mr Powell's views and 'that' speech are perhaps now seeing the consequences of some factions and religions on our society and British culture by not halting immigration back then. Some people I know are refusing to use taxis driven by, or visit restaurants run by, shall we say, people of a certain culture/heritage with the hope that continued, reduced custom will see these businesses fold and the proprietors moving out.
I would have thought we were actually seeing the consequences of British Imperialism since the 16th century.

I don't think Britain gave a **** about other people's culture when they appropriated sovereignty all over the world.

Britain profited very nicely out of the biggest immigration movement in history - Slavery.
[quote][p][bold]WJS1950[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]disgusted with local F.A[/bold] wrote: Name And shame his firm enoch was right in 68[/p][/quote]Those opposed to Mr Powell's views and 'that' speech are perhaps now seeing the consequences of some factions and religions on our society and British culture by not halting immigration back then. Some people I know are refusing to use taxis driven by, or visit restaurants run by, shall we say, people of a certain culture/heritage with the hope that continued, reduced custom will see these businesses fold and the proprietors moving out.[/p][/quote]I would have thought we were actually seeing the consequences of British Imperialism since the 16th century. I don't think Britain gave a **** about other people's culture when they appropriated sovereignty all over the world. Britain profited very nicely out of the biggest immigration movement in history - Slavery. brooksider
  • Score: 2

9:53am Fri 21 Mar 14

dulon says...

The british government are in a real quandary over the syrian issue . We now have our british press doing the same sensationalist coverage that we had before the start of the iraq fiasco .
British government does arm the rebels indirectly ,but, hopefully only the'good' rebels .
The article mentions the distance of 400 mt into syrian territory because there were no border guards . We will soon see whether the armed masked men were 'goodies' or 'baddies'. when he returns to our shores and encounters HM border controls !
The british government are in a real quandary over the syrian issue . We now have our british press doing the same sensationalist coverage that we had before the start of the iraq fiasco . British government does arm the rebels indirectly ,but, hopefully only the'good' rebels . The article mentions the distance of 400 mt into syrian territory because there were no border guards . We will soon see whether the armed masked men were 'goodies' or 'baddies'. when he returns to our shores and encounters HM border controls ! dulon
  • Score: -2

1:06pm Fri 21 Mar 14

ideas4all says...

brooksider wrote:
WJS1950 wrote:
disgusted with local F.A wrote:
Name And shame his firm enoch was right in 68
Those opposed to Mr Powell's views and 'that' speech are perhaps now seeing the consequences of some factions and religions on our society and British culture by not halting immigration back then. Some people I know are refusing to use taxis driven by, or visit restaurants run by, shall we say, people of a certain culture/heritage with the hope that continued, reduced custom will see these businesses fold and the proprietors moving out.
I would have thought we were actually seeing the consequences of British Imperialism since the 16th century.

I don't think Britain gave a **** about other people's culture when they appropriated sovereignty all over the world.

Britain profited very nicely out of the biggest immigration movement in history - Slavery.
Well said brooksider let's see if any of the racists reply to this .I will just add that after centuries of colonialism you should expect some ppl to come here to make a better life for themselves
[quote][p][bold]brooksider[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]WJS1950[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]disgusted with local F.A[/bold] wrote: Name And shame his firm enoch was right in 68[/p][/quote]Those opposed to Mr Powell's views and 'that' speech are perhaps now seeing the consequences of some factions and religions on our society and British culture by not halting immigration back then. Some people I know are refusing to use taxis driven by, or visit restaurants run by, shall we say, people of a certain culture/heritage with the hope that continued, reduced custom will see these businesses fold and the proprietors moving out.[/p][/quote]I would have thought we were actually seeing the consequences of British Imperialism since the 16th century. I don't think Britain gave a **** about other people's culture when they appropriated sovereignty all over the world. Britain profited very nicely out of the biggest immigration movement in history - Slavery.[/p][/quote]Well said brooksider let's see if any of the racists reply to this .I will just add that after centuries of colonialism you should expect some ppl to come here to make a better life for themselves ideas4all
  • Score: 2

3:45pm Fri 21 Mar 14

presterjohn says...

It always boggles my mind slightly when people manage to decide guilt or blame so stridently in these comment sections. The reality seem to me at least to be more complicated than that. For those that go for the Enoch was right style of comment perhaps you need reminding that just as many others were right when they said don't invade Iraq or Afghanistan as it would lead to bad things to. Both sides have a point neither show the full picture. As to the photo from what I understand most of these camps have and need armed guards the guys with the guns could be protecting the camp or indeed the could be terrorists the truth is no one commenting on this site knows the answer to that. Ask questions by all means but don't think for one minute we can know all the answers from looking at a photo.
It always boggles my mind slightly when people manage to decide guilt or blame so stridently in these comment sections. The reality seem to me at least to be more complicated than that. For those that go for the Enoch was right style of comment perhaps you need reminding that just as many others were right when they said don't invade Iraq or Afghanistan as it would lead to bad things to. Both sides have a point neither show the full picture. As to the photo from what I understand most of these camps have and need armed guards the guys with the guns could be protecting the camp or indeed the could be terrorists the truth is no one commenting on this site knows the answer to that. Ask questions by all means but don't think for one minute we can know all the answers from looking at a photo. presterjohn
  • Score: 1

11:22pm Fri 21 Mar 14

The Villan says...

There are some extreme comments on this thread from both sides of the fence, which is out of order.

The most important issue here is the starving children, and adults, from the conflict in Syria. They are not affiliated to terrorists, they are innocent bystanders who need help.

Therefore, if you don't agree with this guy or his supposed associations, then give to the British Red Cross who are also trying to help the misplaced people of this conflict.

Remember, you reap what you sow and karma will find it's true path in the end.
There are some extreme comments on this thread from both sides of the fence, which is out of order. The most important issue here is the starving children, and adults, from the conflict in Syria. They are not affiliated to terrorists, they are innocent bystanders who need help. Therefore, if you don't agree with this guy or his supposed associations, then give to the British Red Cross who are also trying to help the misplaced people of this conflict. Remember, you reap what you sow and karma will find it's true path in the end. The Villan
  • Score: 4

12:12am Sat 22 Mar 14

Jabbadad says...

My history books told me that while Britain being a very successfull maritme nation were indeed involved in the transportation of Slavery to the colonies, the main players in capturing the slaves were actually black Africans themselves who were continuoulsy raiding each others villages, and just killed any prisoners taken, Then Came the value in Slavery.
I never condone Slavery which is happening even today, and not just to Blacks.
My history books told me that while Britain being a very successfull maritme nation were indeed involved in the transportation of Slavery to the colonies, the main players in capturing the slaves were actually black Africans themselves who were continuoulsy raiding each others villages, and just killed any prisoners taken, Then Came the value in Slavery. I never condone Slavery which is happening even today, and not just to Blacks. Jabbadad
  • Score: -3

12:26pm Sun 23 Mar 14

pinkfluff says...

robbo1664 wrote:
thats the last comment on the subject from me i will return when more news on this story is made public.....bye
See ya.......don't rush back!!
[quote][p][bold]robbo1664[/bold] wrote: thats the last comment on the subject from me i will return when more news on this story is made public.....bye[/p][/quote]See ya.......don't rush back!! pinkfluff
  • Score: 3

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