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8:48am Tue 11 Feb 14

welshpricey says...

Looking at what is coming over the next few days and it is only going to get worse for the poor people who have already been overwhelmed and also the whole traffic situation to and from the faithful city.

Being one of the lucky ones who neither lives near a flood area nor has to endure the utter traffic chaos my sympathies go to all those that do.

In regards to the EA's response to all of this, controversially, I think they've been doing a fantastic job in what are outrageous circumstances. I am sure if it wasn't for all of their hard work there would be many more homes / businesses that would have been washed out. You only have to look at the river front in Upton to see what their efforts are achieving. Well done guys and keep fighting the good fight.
Looking at what is coming over the next few days and it is only going to get worse for the poor people who have already been overwhelmed and also the whole traffic situation to and from the faithful city. Being one of the lucky ones who neither lives near a flood area nor has to endure the utter traffic chaos my sympathies go to all those that do. In regards to the EA's response to all of this, controversially, I think they've been doing a fantastic job in what are outrageous circumstances. I am sure if it wasn't for all of their hard work there would be many more homes / businesses that would have been washed out. You only have to look at the river front in Upton to see what their efforts are achieving. Well done guys and keep fighting the good fight. welshpricey
  • Score: 21

9:34am Tue 11 Feb 14

Moltaire says...

I had a meeting at County Hall yesterday for a totally reason but I was astounded to hear the highways office was almost empty. I was told that many of the staff stayed at home or booked the day off, primarily to avoid having to deal with the flooding issues and complaints that were coming in. If this is true. I am well and truly shocked about their attitude towards situations like this, where people's lives are being affected, and the blatant dereliction of duty they're displaying. It'd be worthwhile for the WN to do some investigating in to this because when you have a severe event like this, as many staff as possible should be available to help out. That's what the EA and emergency services are doing, they're not shying away.

As for the EA, I think they have been doing a superb job during tough conditions and funding cuts, not to mention having to put up with misguided comments from that idiot Pickles.
I had a meeting at County Hall yesterday for a totally reason but I was astounded to hear the highways office was almost empty. I was told that many of the staff stayed at home or booked the day off, primarily to avoid having to deal with the flooding issues and complaints that were coming in. If this is true. I am well and truly shocked about their attitude towards situations like this, where people's lives are being affected, and the blatant dereliction of duty they're displaying. It'd be worthwhile for the WN to do some investigating in to this because when you have a severe event like this, as many staff as possible should be available to help out. That's what the EA and emergency services are doing, they're not shying away. As for the EA, I think they have been doing a superb job during tough conditions and funding cuts, not to mention having to put up with misguided comments from that idiot Pickles. Moltaire
  • Score: 4

10:15am Tue 11 Feb 14

welshpricey says...

If that is indeed true of the HA then that is absolutely disgusting and serious questions need to be posed. Working in the service industry there are days when it all goes wrong and you do, unfortunately, have to field the complaints. It's those days that you are being paid for, not the days when it is all going swimmingly and you get to twiddle your thumbs. Would be interesting to see if there is any truth behind the statement though. Over to you WN
If that is indeed true of the HA then that is absolutely disgusting and serious questions need to be posed. Working in the service industry there are days when it all goes wrong and you do, unfortunately, have to field the complaints. It's those days that you are being paid for, not the days when it is all going swimmingly and you get to twiddle your thumbs. Would be interesting to see if there is any truth behind the statement though. Over to you WN welshpricey
  • Score: 5

10:18am Tue 11 Feb 14

Redhillman says...

Moltaire wrote:
I had a meeting at County Hall yesterday for a totally reason but I was astounded to hear the highways office was almost empty. I was told that many of the staff stayed at home or booked the day off, primarily to avoid having to deal with the flooding issues and complaints that were coming in. If this is true. I am well and truly shocked about their attitude towards situations like this, where people's lives are being affected, and the blatant dereliction of duty they're displaying. It'd be worthwhile for the WN to do some investigating in to this because when you have a severe event like this, as many staff as possible should be available to help out. That's what the EA and emergency services are doing, they're not shying away.

As for the EA, I think they have been doing a superb job during tough conditions and funding cuts, not to mention having to put up with misguided comments from that idiot Pickles.
This wouldn't surprise me one jot of I'm honest. Their communication has been poor, while attempts to get hold of highways staff for anything over the years has been a struggle. They all seem very keen to shy away, particularly when times are tough.
[quote][p][bold]Moltaire[/bold] wrote: I had a meeting at County Hall yesterday for a totally reason but I was astounded to hear the highways office was almost empty. I was told that many of the staff stayed at home or booked the day off, primarily to avoid having to deal with the flooding issues and complaints that were coming in. If this is true. I am well and truly shocked about their attitude towards situations like this, where people's lives are being affected, and the blatant dereliction of duty they're displaying. It'd be worthwhile for the WN to do some investigating in to this because when you have a severe event like this, as many staff as possible should be available to help out. That's what the EA and emergency services are doing, they're not shying away. As for the EA, I think they have been doing a superb job during tough conditions and funding cuts, not to mention having to put up with misguided comments from that idiot Pickles.[/p][/quote]This wouldn't surprise me one jot of I'm honest. Their communication has been poor, while attempts to get hold of highways staff for anything over the years has been a struggle. They all seem very keen to shy away, particularly when times are tough. Redhillman
  • Score: 1

10:20am Tue 11 Feb 14

BanjoLegs says...

Delayed my journey from Henwick, St Johns to malvern this morning by an hour until 9:30am hoping to miss the traffic. Bit of a waste of time that. Got 20 yards from home to find traffic backed up along Henwick Road all the way to the YMCA. Had to turn around and go around Dines Green and onto the Hereford Road into Malvern. Surface water terrible on the A4103, especially watch out for the dip in the road by the Bank House in Bransford which has flooded the East bound side of the road (by the depth gauge obviously!). More deep surface water coming into Leigh Sinton and again coming out of the village on the Malvern road.
I hope the flooding at Bransford doesn't close the road later as it's my escape route back home!
Delayed my journey from Henwick, St Johns to malvern this morning by an hour until 9:30am hoping to miss the traffic. Bit of a waste of time that. Got 20 yards from home to find traffic backed up along Henwick Road all the way to the YMCA. Had to turn around and go around Dines Green and onto the Hereford Road into Malvern. Surface water terrible on the A4103, especially watch out for the dip in the road by the Bank House in Bransford which has flooded the East bound side of the road (by the depth gauge obviously!). More deep surface water coming into Leigh Sinton and again coming out of the village on the Malvern road. I hope the flooding at Bransford doesn't close the road later as it's my escape route back home! BanjoLegs
  • Score: -1

10:33am Tue 11 Feb 14

skychip says...

Doesn't surprise me the comment regarding County Hall staff. Would be interested to find out the true facts. Doesn't help either that they struggle to find parking spaces so easier option to stay at home.
Doesn't surprise me the comment regarding County Hall staff. Would be interested to find out the true facts. Doesn't help either that they struggle to find parking spaces so easier option to stay at home. skychip
  • Score: 0

12:29pm Tue 11 Feb 14

Hwicce says...

A few questions that arise from the floods.

The flooding at Newport Street, The Butts, and Croft Road are all caused by the water coming back up the drains. Why do these not have non-return valves on them?

The pedestrian refuges at either end of the Worcester Bridge prevent traffic running into Worcester down New Road, along the left hand two lanes of the bridge and on up Bridge Street. Are these refuges going to be rebuilt so that in situations like this they can be removed and full two-way, two-lane traffic be possible over the bridge?

The section of Hylton Road from Tybridge Street to the bridge dips in the middle. Is this dip going to be filled and the extreme camber towards the river removed so it is less inclined to flood?

Is anyone considering Upton/Bewdley style flood barriers along North Parade, Croft Road, and Hylton Road to allow the roads to remain open in similar situations in the future? If not, why not?
A few questions that arise from the floods. The flooding at Newport Street, The Butts, and Croft Road are all caused by the water coming back up the drains. Why do these not have non-return valves on them? The pedestrian refuges at either end of the Worcester Bridge prevent traffic running into Worcester down New Road, along the left hand two lanes of the bridge and on up Bridge Street. Are these refuges going to be rebuilt so that in situations like this they can be removed and full two-way, two-lane traffic be possible over the bridge? The section of Hylton Road from Tybridge Street to the bridge dips in the middle. Is this dip going to be filled and the extreme camber towards the river removed so it is less inclined to flood? Is anyone considering Upton/Bewdley style flood barriers along North Parade, Croft Road, and Hylton Road to allow the roads to remain open in similar situations in the future? If not, why not? Hwicce
  • Score: 2

1:16pm Tue 11 Feb 14

Pomygranit says...

Hwicce wrote:
A few questions that arise from the floods.

The flooding at Newport Street, The Butts, and Croft Road are all caused by the water coming back up the drains. Why do these not have non-return valves on them?

The pedestrian refuges at either end of the Worcester Bridge prevent traffic running into Worcester down New Road, along the left hand two lanes of the bridge and on up Bridge Street. Are these refuges going to be rebuilt so that in situations like this they can be removed and full two-way, two-lane traffic be possible over the bridge?

The section of Hylton Road from Tybridge Street to the bridge dips in the middle. Is this dip going to be filled and the extreme camber towards the river removed so it is less inclined to flood?

Is anyone considering Upton/Bewdley style flood barriers along North Parade, Croft Road, and Hylton Road to allow the roads to remain open in similar situations in the future? If not, why not?
Is it Dave Throup's day off today?
The man is a star
[quote][p][bold]Hwicce[/bold] wrote: A few questions that arise from the floods. The flooding at Newport Street, The Butts, and Croft Road are all caused by the water coming back up the drains. Why do these not have non-return valves on them? The pedestrian refuges at either end of the Worcester Bridge prevent traffic running into Worcester down New Road, along the left hand two lanes of the bridge and on up Bridge Street. Are these refuges going to be rebuilt so that in situations like this they can be removed and full two-way, two-lane traffic be possible over the bridge? The section of Hylton Road from Tybridge Street to the bridge dips in the middle. Is this dip going to be filled and the extreme camber towards the river removed so it is less inclined to flood? Is anyone considering Upton/Bewdley style flood barriers along North Parade, Croft Road, and Hylton Road to allow the roads to remain open in similar situations in the future? If not, why not?[/p][/quote]Is it Dave Throup's day off today? The man is a star Pomygranit
  • Score: -1

7:07pm Tue 11 Feb 14

sitting on the fence gives you piles says...

Pomygranit wrote:
Hwicce wrote:
A few questions that arise from the floods.

The flooding at Newport Street, The Butts, and Croft Road are all caused by the water coming back up the drains. Why do these not have non-return valves on them?

The pedestrian refuges at either end of the Worcester Bridge prevent traffic running into Worcester down New Road, along the left hand two lanes of the bridge and on up Bridge Street. Are these refuges going to be rebuilt so that in situations like this they can be removed and full two-way, two-lane traffic be possible over the bridge?

The section of Hylton Road from Tybridge Street to the bridge dips in the middle. Is this dip going to be filled and the extreme camber towards the river removed so it is less inclined to flood?

Is anyone considering Upton/Bewdley style flood barriers along North Parade, Croft Road, and Hylton Road to allow the roads to remain open in similar situations in the future? If not, why not?
Is it Dave Throup's day off today?
The man is a star
You don't find him a tad annoying then?
[quote][p][bold]Pomygranit[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hwicce[/bold] wrote: A few questions that arise from the floods. The flooding at Newport Street, The Butts, and Croft Road are all caused by the water coming back up the drains. Why do these not have non-return valves on them? The pedestrian refuges at either end of the Worcester Bridge prevent traffic running into Worcester down New Road, along the left hand two lanes of the bridge and on up Bridge Street. Are these refuges going to be rebuilt so that in situations like this they can be removed and full two-way, two-lane traffic be possible over the bridge? The section of Hylton Road from Tybridge Street to the bridge dips in the middle. Is this dip going to be filled and the extreme camber towards the river removed so it is less inclined to flood? Is anyone considering Upton/Bewdley style flood barriers along North Parade, Croft Road, and Hylton Road to allow the roads to remain open in similar situations in the future? If not, why not?[/p][/quote]Is it Dave Throup's day off today? The man is a star[/p][/quote]You don't find him a tad annoying then? sitting on the fence gives you piles
  • Score: 6

7:47pm Tue 11 Feb 14

Old Uncle says...

After the water goes down and we stop wringing our hands and commiserating with those affected. What is the long term plan? These floods have been happening for hundreds of years, isn't it about time for a more permanent solution? Upton/Bewdley style barriers would be a start. Raising the level of some streets and roads might also help and alleviate some of the traffic jams. Maybe when the Highway people get back to work they could come up with something.
After the water goes down and we stop wringing our hands and commiserating with those affected. What is the long term plan? These floods have been happening for hundreds of years, isn't it about time for a more permanent solution? Upton/Bewdley style barriers would be a start. Raising the level of some streets and roads might also help and alleviate some of the traffic jams. Maybe when the Highway people get back to work they could come up with something. Old Uncle
  • Score: -2

8:28pm Tue 11 Feb 14

WilkoJ says...

Hwicce wrote:
A few questions that arise from the floods.

The flooding at Newport Street, The Butts, and Croft Road are all caused by the water coming back up the drains. Why do these not have non-return valves on them?

The pedestrian refuges at either end of the Worcester Bridge prevent traffic running into Worcester down New Road, along the left hand two lanes of the bridge and on up Bridge Street. Are these refuges going to be rebuilt so that in situations like this they can be removed and full two-way, two-lane traffic be possible over the bridge?

The section of Hylton Road from Tybridge Street to the bridge dips in the middle. Is this dip going to be filled and the extreme camber towards the river removed so it is less inclined to flood?

Is anyone considering Upton/Bewdley style flood barriers along North Parade, Croft Road, and Hylton Road to allow the roads to remain open in similar situations in the future? If not, why not?
Hwwice, these are totally valid and common sense points. The problem is, our highways department lack common sense or foresight so while what you have suggested is obvious and would alleviate the chaos that's ensued in Worcester, it's obviousness won't even register with our so called highway 'experts', even if you had to spell it out in large letters written in crayon, supplemented with easy to understand drawings. You'd almost hear a pin drop amongst the deafening silence at County Hall while they try to comprehend what you've said.
[quote][p][bold]Hwicce[/bold] wrote: A few questions that arise from the floods. The flooding at Newport Street, The Butts, and Croft Road are all caused by the water coming back up the drains. Why do these not have non-return valves on them? The pedestrian refuges at either end of the Worcester Bridge prevent traffic running into Worcester down New Road, along the left hand two lanes of the bridge and on up Bridge Street. Are these refuges going to be rebuilt so that in situations like this they can be removed and full two-way, two-lane traffic be possible over the bridge? The section of Hylton Road from Tybridge Street to the bridge dips in the middle. Is this dip going to be filled and the extreme camber towards the river removed so it is less inclined to flood? Is anyone considering Upton/Bewdley style flood barriers along North Parade, Croft Road, and Hylton Road to allow the roads to remain open in similar situations in the future? If not, why not?[/p][/quote]Hwwice, these are totally valid and common sense points. The problem is, our highways department lack common sense or foresight so while what you have suggested is obvious and would alleviate the chaos that's ensued in Worcester, it's obviousness won't even register with our so called highway 'experts', even if you had to spell it out in large letters written in crayon, supplemented with easy to understand drawings. You'd almost hear a pin drop amongst the deafening silence at County Hall while they try to comprehend what you've said. WilkoJ
  • Score: -2

8:29pm Tue 11 Feb 14

WilkoJ says...

Redhillman wrote:
Moltaire wrote:
I had a meeting at County Hall yesterday for a totally reason but I was astounded to hear the highways office was almost empty. I was told that many of the staff stayed at home or booked the day off, primarily to avoid having to deal with the flooding issues and complaints that were coming in. If this is true. I am well and truly shocked about their attitude towards situations like this, where people's lives are being affected, and the blatant dereliction of duty they're displaying. It'd be worthwhile for the WN to do some investigating in to this because when you have a severe event like this, as many staff as possible should be available to help out. That's what the EA and emergency services are doing, they're not shying away.

As for the EA, I think they have been doing a superb job during tough conditions and funding cuts, not to mention having to put up with misguided comments from that idiot Pickles.
This wouldn't surprise me one jot of I'm honest. Their communication has been poor, while attempts to get hold of highways staff for anything over the years has been a struggle. They all seem very keen to shy away, particularly when times are tough.
Yup, doesn't surprise me either. Frankly shocking.
[quote][p][bold]Redhillman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Moltaire[/bold] wrote: I had a meeting at County Hall yesterday for a totally reason but I was astounded to hear the highways office was almost empty. I was told that many of the staff stayed at home or booked the day off, primarily to avoid having to deal with the flooding issues and complaints that were coming in. If this is true. I am well and truly shocked about their attitude towards situations like this, where people's lives are being affected, and the blatant dereliction of duty they're displaying. It'd be worthwhile for the WN to do some investigating in to this because when you have a severe event like this, as many staff as possible should be available to help out. That's what the EA and emergency services are doing, they're not shying away. As for the EA, I think they have been doing a superb job during tough conditions and funding cuts, not to mention having to put up with misguided comments from that idiot Pickles.[/p][/quote]This wouldn't surprise me one jot of I'm honest. Their communication has been poor, while attempts to get hold of highways staff for anything over the years has been a struggle. They all seem very keen to shy away, particularly when times are tough.[/p][/quote]Yup, doesn't surprise me either. Frankly shocking. WilkoJ
  • Score: -3

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