Anger at pay rise for council chiefs

A pay rise has been awarded to 16 higher earners at County Hall

A pay rise has been awarded to 16 higher earners at County Hall

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Malvern Gazette: Tom Edwards by , Political Reporter

SIXTEEN of the higher paid workers at Worcestershire County Council are getting a one per cent pay rise, sparking anger.

Chief officers, who earn between £73,000 and £85,000 for heading departments across County Hall, have secured the increases from April despite claims they earn enough.

The rise has been heavily criticised by the opposition Labour group, which tried to block it during behind-closed-doors discussions earlier this month.

Your Worcester News can reveal an in-house body, called the appointments panel, met to debate it, during which Labour group leader Councillor Peter McDonald called for it to be scrapped.

But his plea was rejected after members of the Conservative group said it would bring chief officers in line with teachers, who had a one per cent rise last year.

The rises come amid a backdrop of heavy job cuts at the council, with at least 600 posts being axed by 2017 as part of a plan to save £98million.

Rank-and-file workers have yet to be told if they will get any rise at all this April, with the council saying no announcement will be due until the spring.

Coun McDonald, who sat on the panel which made the decision, said: “These chief officers are saying ‘the teachers had this one per cent rise, so we deserve one, too’.

“These are people who earn from £73,000 to £85,000 already.

"We do not have to do this, there is no reason why we should. When you think the rest of the staff haven’t been given any assurances, I don’t think it’s right at all.”

But the Tory leadership says another freeze would have meant a fifth successive year without a rise.

Directors’ salaries are being frozen, while the chief executive role is facing a cut of £25,000 to £151,000 once Trish Haines retires in the spring.

Councillor Adrian Hardman, the leader, said: “The decision to increase senior managers’ pay by one per cent was taken to bring them in line with other council staff and teachers, who received a one per cent pay increase in the previous year.

"To not do so would have meant a fifth year in a row without a pay rise.”

Your Worcester News can also reveal that the city council is giving all its workforce a one per cent pay rise in April. The figure, agreed a few weeks ago internally, has been backed by the unions.

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5:05pm Mon 20 Jan 14

Bushi says...

One percent in five years doesn't seem an excessive increase. I suppose it's the fact that they're high earners that everyone resents. Whether they're worth this figure I don't know as I don't what they do, but it hardly seems a big increase. I know we've all felt the squeeze but I'll bet that most have more of an increase than 1% over 5 years
One percent in five years doesn't seem an excessive increase. I suppose it's the fact that they're high earners that everyone resents. Whether they're worth this figure I don't know as I don't what they do, but it hardly seems a big increase. I know we've all felt the squeeze but I'll bet that most have more of an increase than 1% over 5 years Bushi
  • Score: 2

9:01pm Mon 20 Jan 14

Redhillman says...

Well, if we needed a further example to show Worcestershire county council continue to remain out of touch with reality, this is it. This is totally scandalous and it shows they don't give a stuff about the public, services or people who are struggling to make ends meet. All they care is about feathering their own nests and sticking their middle finger at the rest of is. The culture and attitude of the council really stinks and we must do something, even something rebellious, to stop them continuing to do these sort of things and treating us all like sh*t.
Well, if we needed a further example to show Worcestershire county council continue to remain out of touch with reality, this is it. This is totally scandalous and it shows they don't give a stuff about the public, services or people who are struggling to make ends meet. All they care is about feathering their own nests and sticking their middle finger at the rest of is. The culture and attitude of the council really stinks and we must do something, even something rebellious, to stop them continuing to do these sort of things and treating us all like sh*t. Redhillman
  • Score: 7

9:13pm Mon 20 Jan 14

jb says...

Huge cuts, job losses, services lost and now pay rises????.... Not that we need it but undeniable proof that the management and above at Worcestershire County Council have NO RESPECT for the residents of this county. It's a case of 'do as I say not do as I do'. I'm appalled that this is even being considered during these so called times of austerity.
Huge cuts, job losses, services lost and now pay rises????.... Not that we need it but undeniable proof that the management and above at Worcestershire County Council have NO RESPECT for the residents of this county. It's a case of 'do as I say not do as I do'. I'm appalled that this is even being considered during these so called times of austerity. jb
  • Score: 8

10:52pm Mon 20 Jan 14

yamoto says...

THEY SHOULD BE TAKING A DECREASE !!!!!
THEY SHOULD BE TAKING A DECREASE !!!!! yamoto
  • Score: 8

11:33pm Mon 20 Jan 14

Ron Chambers says...

I hope that they realise that the elderly vote is the way they keep their nests feathered .With this disgraceful increase they must sleep far better than all the people being affected by your cuts . But why should you worry when these cuts being made will never affect you, not now but maybe in the future. Maybe
they should live in the real world and look at some off these people you rely on for votes have to cope now. And what this document FUTURE LIVES should be changed to NO FUTURE LIVES.
I hope that they realise that the elderly vote is the way they keep their nests feathered .With this disgraceful increase they must sleep far better than all the people being affected by your cuts . But why should you worry when these cuts being made will never affect you, not now but maybe in the future. Maybe they should live in the real world and look at some off these people you rely on for votes have to cope now. And what this document FUTURE LIVES should be changed to NO FUTURE LIVES. Ron Chambers
  • Score: 2

8:58am Tue 21 Jan 14

green49 says...

As JB says no respect, quite right this Evil Tory council has no respect or compasion for anyone who has no choice to but to rely on care help, they are all out of touch Hardman especially he is arrogant and is a TORY yes man, Just supporting what Camerons clowns are doing cutting the money.

I over heard a little bird tweeting the other day, despite Ms Haines making no comment on why she is going, the tweet was She had a disagreement with Hardman as he was pushing to get the cuts through, too many too deep too quick, so to shut her up shes out, The Council leader just wants a yes man for the job, he should resign NOW.
As JB says no respect, quite right this Evil Tory council has no respect or compasion for anyone who has no choice to but to rely on care help, they are all out of touch Hardman especially he is arrogant and is a TORY yes man, Just supporting what Camerons clowns are doing cutting the money. I over heard a little bird tweeting the other day, despite Ms Haines making no comment on why she is going, the tweet was She had a disagreement with Hardman as he was pushing to get the cuts through, too many too deep too quick, so to shut her up shes out, The Council leader just wants a yes man for the job, he should resign NOW. green49
  • Score: 10

11:47am Tue 21 Jan 14

Bufton Tufton says...

Bushi wrote:
One percent in five years doesn't seem an excessive increase. I suppose it's the fact that they're high earners that everyone resents. Whether they're worth this figure I don't know as I don't what they do, but it hardly seems a big increase. I know we've all felt the squeeze but I'll bet that most have more of an increase than 1% over 5 years
I will tell you what they do, they administer Government policy and have very little actual power. Basically they receive income from Central Government and local taxes, put the money into a big piggy bank and then distribute it on local services directly or through contractors. They are, if you like, central governments personal assistants. For this, they pay themselves more than Cabinet Ministers who actual run the country, whether you think said government ministers make a good job of running the country is another issue and 80% of legislation originates in Brussels these days anyway, which makes even more of a nonsense of so-called local democracy. Over many years their pay and conditions have been allowed to inflate way beyond any reasonable amount for what they actually do. A self serving bureaucracy if ever there was one. There is no point in talking about the "Evil Tory Council" as some have done in these forums when trying to make a political point because they are all as bad as each other and why should politics even enter into the administration of libraries, road repairs, care of the elderly, etc etc etc?

This is all done at no personal financial risk to the individuals concerned so there is no point in these leeches trying to compare themselves to overpaid captains of industry who also run vast budgets in big organisations because there is generally some level of risk involved with the shareholders taking the reward for the risk. But no, voters are so apathetic in this country that turn out at elections are low and just a few impotent protests are made in the columns of the Worcester News and the blood sucking leeches know this and carry on regardless. People I am afraid, get the governments they deserve.
[quote][p][bold]Bushi[/bold] wrote: One percent in five years doesn't seem an excessive increase. I suppose it's the fact that they're high earners that everyone resents. Whether they're worth this figure I don't know as I don't what they do, but it hardly seems a big increase. I know we've all felt the squeeze but I'll bet that most have more of an increase than 1% over 5 years[/p][/quote]I will tell you what they do, they administer Government policy and have very little actual power. Basically they receive income from Central Government and local taxes, put the money into a big piggy bank and then distribute it on local services directly or through contractors. They are, if you like, central governments personal assistants. For this, they pay themselves more than Cabinet Ministers who actual run the country, whether you think said government ministers make a good job of running the country is another issue and 80% of legislation originates in Brussels these days anyway, which makes even more of a nonsense of so-called local democracy. Over many years their pay and conditions have been allowed to inflate way beyond any reasonable amount for what they actually do. A self serving bureaucracy if ever there was one. There is no point in talking about the "Evil Tory Council" as some have done in these forums when trying to make a political point because they are all as bad as each other and why should politics even enter into the administration of libraries, road repairs, care of the elderly, etc etc etc? This is all done at no personal financial risk to the individuals concerned so there is no point in these leeches trying to compare themselves to overpaid captains of industry who also run vast budgets in big organisations because there is generally some level of risk involved with the shareholders taking the reward for the risk. But no, voters are so apathetic in this country that turn out at elections are low and just a few impotent protests are made in the columns of the Worcester News and the blood sucking leeches know this and carry on regardless. People I am afraid, get the [local] governments they deserve. Bufton Tufton
  • Score: 8

12:13pm Tue 21 Jan 14

Andy-Apache says...

Put aside what they do, whether they're any good at it, or whether they deserve their salary for a moment.

If my employer said to me "1% over 5 years" I'd be very brassed off indeed. If they said to me "no pay increase for 5 years" I'd be moving on. I expect if these people fetch salaries like that (whether you think they deserve it or not) they probably have transferable skills which aren't so easy to find in the jobs market, so would find other work relatively easily and the council would struggle to fill the posts.

Not to denigrate those 'at the coal face' as it were, but many of those jobs are probably relatively easy to fill, so don't attract as high a salary. If you can lose staff and get reasonably effective ones 'next day' for less money, you're on a bit of a sticky wicket.
Put aside what they do, whether they're any good at it, or whether they deserve their salary for a moment. If my employer said to me "1% over 5 years" I'd be very brassed off indeed. If they said to me "no pay increase for 5 years" I'd be moving on. I expect if these people fetch salaries like that (whether you think they deserve it or not) they probably have transferable skills which aren't so easy to find in the jobs market, so would find other work relatively easily and the council would struggle to fill the posts. Not to denigrate those 'at the coal face' as it were, but many of those jobs are probably relatively easy to fill, so don't attract as high a salary. If you can lose staff and get reasonably effective ones 'next day' for less money, you're on a bit of a sticky wicket. Andy-Apache
  • Score: -7

12:17pm Tue 21 Jan 14

denon says...

What about head teachers in academy schools earning £106,148 and being treated like saints ....long holidays and fat cat teachers pensions Band 9 nurses on £98,453

Pershore HS head 11/12 £103,254

Tudor Grange last available accounts 10/11 1 employee £90,001 tp £100,000

Something needs examining
What about head teachers in academy schools earning £106,148 and being treated like saints ....long holidays and fat cat teachers pensions Band 9 nurses on £98,453 Pershore HS head 11/12 £103,254 Tudor Grange last available accounts 10/11 1 employee £90,001 tp £100,000 Something needs examining denon
  • Score: 7

1:11pm Tue 21 Jan 14

WJS1950 says...

Well done council workers, reward yourselves with a pay rise when everyone else is struggling, particularly in the private sector, and when council services are being cut right, left and centre, some of which will impact severely of the health and well being of vulnerable people who rely on these services. The greed of council workers knows no bounds and the sooner they realise that the council is an authority to deliver services to the tax payer, rather than an organisation that is in place to dish out vast salaries at the tax payer's expense, the better.

Civilised direct action and protests against County Hall staff is now needed, and fast. We need to make our voices heard and for council staff to realise that we have all had enough of their excessive salaries, perks and benefits which is at the expense of services.
Well done council workers, reward yourselves with a pay rise when everyone else is struggling, particularly in the private sector, and when council services are being cut right, left and centre, some of which will impact severely of the health and well being of vulnerable people who rely on these services. The greed of council workers knows no bounds and the sooner they realise that the council is an authority to deliver services to the tax payer, rather than an organisation that is in place to dish out vast salaries at the tax payer's expense, the better. Civilised direct action and protests against County Hall staff is now needed, and fast. We need to make our voices heard and for council staff to realise that we have all had enough of their excessive salaries, perks and benefits which is at the expense of services. WJS1950
  • Score: 0

3:07pm Tue 21 Jan 14

green49 says...

WJS1950 Civilised direct action and protests against County Hall staff is now needed, and fast. We need to make our voices heard and for council staff to realise that we have all had enough of their excessive salaries, perks and benefits which is at the expense of services.

I do hope you mean the top staff?? as if your refering to the general workforce you need to get some facts right,,

Andy-Apache if you think the workers jobs are easy and overpaid why havent you applied for one? what C*** you have posted
WJS1950 Civilised direct action and protests against County Hall staff is now needed, and fast. We need to make our voices heard and for council staff to realise that we have all had enough of their excessive salaries, perks and benefits which is at the expense of services. I do hope you mean the top staff?? as if your refering to the general workforce you need to get some facts right,, Andy-Apache if you think the workers jobs are easy and overpaid why havent you applied for one? what C*** you have posted green49
  • Score: 5

3:15pm Tue 21 Jan 14

green49 says...

Bufton Tufton thanks for the lecture but my reference as to this Evil Tory Council is because of the cuts they are doing, not discussing but doing due to the Governments funding policy, Yet the council DO NOT have to go down this route they are going, it will come back to bite there backsides as the decision makers do not know what they are doing and will not listen to expertise in the areas they will hit the most,.

It wont be until people are hit with little or no service that they will realise whats going on, i agree voting is the way but it seems so many are disillusioned over lying politicians and poor representation that they cannot be bothered to vote as they feel all parties are pretty much the same when they get in.

You dont vote you got no right to complain and you dont deserve a voice.
Bufton Tufton thanks for the lecture but my reference as to this Evil Tory Council is because of the cuts they are doing, not discussing but doing due to the Governments funding policy, Yet the council DO NOT have to go down this route they are going, it will come back to bite there backsides as the decision makers do not know what they are doing and will not listen to expertise in the areas they will hit the most,. It wont be until people are hit with little or no service that they will realise whats going on, i agree voting is the way but it seems so many are disillusioned over lying politicians and poor representation that they cannot be bothered to vote as they feel all parties are pretty much the same when they get in. You dont vote you got no right to complain and you dont deserve a voice. green49
  • Score: 3

3:24pm Tue 21 Jan 14

centralstair says...

The proposed cuts are an absolute disgrace,but possibly already done and dusted.Every resident will suffer from increase in costs and reduced services we should all try to get to the Council meeting on Feb 6th at 10am to show our concern and voice an opinion.The lack of understanding from the people making these decision makes me wonder if they live in the County as they dont live in the real world.
The proposed cuts are an absolute disgrace,but possibly already done and dusted.Every resident will suffer from increase in costs and reduced services we should all try to get to the Council meeting on Feb 6th at 10am to show our concern and voice an opinion.The lack of understanding from the people making these decision makes me wonder if they live in the County as they dont live in the real world. centralstair
  • Score: 2

11:35pm Tue 21 Jan 14

F1 Dave says...

Dear all, this is fact; this is what is happening to the work force at WCC.
The leadership has decided to put out all services over the next years.
So your tax money will pay for the staff to be transferred to the private sector.
Good I hear some of cry.
Well think of this FACT, the money that will go with the contracts to the private sector to take the staff will need to cover staff pay and profit. Then the remaining amount will be for the service.
What you get now for your Tax pound is staff at cost, no profit element. The remaining money for the service. You might not like council staff being paid to work for the people of Worcestershire, but this system is the cheapest way of providing services.
The leadership will still have its management in place costing you the tax payer. Odd thing is that, the Top Management cannot show a saving outsourcing the work force. They are hoping that they can fool the people by saying they have saved money by reducing staff numbers.
The phrase cooking the books comes to mind. Or Just Lies
Hardman you are not fit to be leader of our Council.
Dear all, this is fact; this is what is happening to the work force at WCC. The leadership has decided to put out all services over the next years. So your tax money will pay for the staff to be transferred to the private sector. Good I hear some of cry. Well think of this FACT, the money that will go with the contracts to the private sector to take the staff will need to cover staff pay and profit. Then the remaining amount will be for the service. What you get now for your Tax pound is staff at cost, no profit element. The remaining money for the service. You might not like council staff being paid to work for the people of Worcestershire, but this system is the cheapest way of providing services. The leadership will still have its management in place costing you the tax payer. Odd thing is that, the Top Management cannot show a saving outsourcing the work force. They are hoping that they can fool the people by saying they have saved money by reducing staff numbers. The phrase cooking the books comes to mind. Or Just Lies Hardman you are not fit to be leader of our Council. F1 Dave
  • Score: 8

1:55pm Thu 23 Jan 14

Harry2nd says...

WJS1950 wrote:
Well done council workers, reward yourselves with a pay rise when everyone else is struggling, particularly in the private sector, and when council services are being cut right, left and centre, some of which will impact severely of the health and well being of vulnerable people who rely on these services. The greed of council workers knows no bounds and the sooner they realise that the council is an authority to deliver services to the tax payer, rather than an organisation that is in place to dish out vast salaries at the tax payer's expense, the better.

Civilised direct action and protests against County Hall staff is now needed, and fast. We need to make our voices heard and for council staff to realise that we have all had enough of their excessive salaries, perks and benefits which is at the expense of services.
It's the managers getting the pay rise not the workers! What exactly is the direct action you are proposing because if you think you can intimidate or bully the staff the only thing that will happen is you will be arrested. If you want to protest about the cuts fair enough but do it fairly and not by inciting hatred to the staff.
[quote][p][bold]WJS1950[/bold] wrote: Well done council workers, reward yourselves with a pay rise when everyone else is struggling, particularly in the private sector, and when council services are being cut right, left and centre, some of which will impact severely of the health and well being of vulnerable people who rely on these services. The greed of council workers knows no bounds and the sooner they realise that the council is an authority to deliver services to the tax payer, rather than an organisation that is in place to dish out vast salaries at the tax payer's expense, the better. Civilised direct action and protests against County Hall staff is now needed, and fast. We need to make our voices heard and for council staff to realise that we have all had enough of their excessive salaries, perks and benefits which is at the expense of services.[/p][/quote]It's the managers getting the pay rise not the workers! What exactly is the direct action you are proposing because if you think you can intimidate or bully the staff the only thing that will happen is you will be arrested. If you want to protest about the cuts fair enough but do it fairly and not by inciting hatred to the staff. Harry2nd
  • Score: 2

2:26pm Sat 25 Jan 14

DarrenM says...

All of the staff should be put on minimum wage for the next 3 years, I bet that would help them save £98 million.
All of the staff should be put on minimum wage for the next 3 years, I bet that would help them save £98 million. DarrenM
  • Score: -4

1:26pm Mon 27 Jan 14

Guy66 says...

Harry2nd wrote:
WJS1950 wrote:
Well done council workers, reward yourselves with a pay rise when everyone else is struggling, particularly in the private sector, and when council services are being cut right, left and centre, some of which will impact severely of the health and well being of vulnerable people who rely on these services. The greed of council workers knows no bounds and the sooner they realise that the council is an authority to deliver services to the tax payer, rather than an organisation that is in place to dish out vast salaries at the tax payer's expense, the better.

Civilised direct action and protests against County Hall staff is now needed, and fast. We need to make our voices heard and for council staff to realise that we have all had enough of their excessive salaries, perks and benefits which is at the expense of services.
It's the managers getting the pay rise not the workers! What exactly is the direct action you are proposing because if you think you can intimidate or bully the staff the only thing that will happen is you will be arrested. If you want to protest about the cuts fair enough but do it fairly and not by inciting hatred to the staff.
"Your Worcester News can also reveal that the city council is giving all its workforce a one per cent pay rise in April. The figure, agreed a few weeks ago internally, has been backed by the unions."

Helps if you actually read the article and not the headline and another quote for you...

“The decision to increase senior managers’ pay by one per cent was taken to bring them in line with other council staff and teachers, who received a one per cent pay increase in the previous year.

So last year council staff and teachers received 1pc while managers apparently did not!
[quote][p][bold]Harry2nd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]WJS1950[/bold] wrote: Well done council workers, reward yourselves with a pay rise when everyone else is struggling, particularly in the private sector, and when council services are being cut right, left and centre, some of which will impact severely of the health and well being of vulnerable people who rely on these services. The greed of council workers knows no bounds and the sooner they realise that the council is an authority to deliver services to the tax payer, rather than an organisation that is in place to dish out vast salaries at the tax payer's expense, the better. Civilised direct action and protests against County Hall staff is now needed, and fast. We need to make our voices heard and for council staff to realise that we have all had enough of their excessive salaries, perks and benefits which is at the expense of services.[/p][/quote]It's the managers getting the pay rise not the workers! What exactly is the direct action you are proposing because if you think you can intimidate or bully the staff the only thing that will happen is you will be arrested. If you want to protest about the cuts fair enough but do it fairly and not by inciting hatred to the staff.[/p][/quote]"Your Worcester News can also reveal that the city council is giving all its workforce a one per cent pay rise in April. The figure, agreed a few weeks ago internally, has been backed by the unions." Helps if you actually read the article and not the headline and another quote for you... “The decision to increase senior managers’ pay by one per cent was taken to bring them in line with other council staff and teachers, who received a one per cent pay increase in the previous year. So last year council staff and teachers received 1pc while managers apparently did not! Guy66
  • Score: 1

2:12pm Mon 27 Jan 14

liketoknow says...

the 'county' council have yet to be told . announcement in april. confused? I am.
the 'county' council have yet to be told . announcement in april. confused? I am. liketoknow
  • Score: 0

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